Re: Shuma Gorath Vs Council Of Godheads
Originally posted by Golgo13vs
Do you mean the gods listed in that pic? Some of them weren't even the Skyfathers of their respective pantheons. For example Izanami IS NOT the Shinto Skyfather, she's his wife. Also some of the others there, like King Baldur, weren't even High Herald Level (according to some posters).
So if it's Shuma against that group in the picture, then yes, he can win. Sh|t, Odin or Zeus would win too.
Now if you mean Shuma vs the Council of Godheads consisting of EVERY SKYFATHER in Earth's pantheons, Shuma gets stomped.
Originally posted by CortSether
It's not debatable at all, don't let Zop fool you. Shuma wrecks every time.
Originally posted by Cogito
See, this is why Marvel's hierarchy annoys me.How is Shuma supposed to conquer universes if it's even debatable whether or not he beats the gods of a single planet?
Keep in mind the TRUE Council of Godheads (comprising all of Earth's Skyfathers) isn't in the picture the OP posted. This is them :
"God" save any demon attempting to beat that group.
Shuma was supposedly one of the Many-Angled Ones , the same beings who dwarfed the Galactus Engine's power , and some of whose lackeys killed Aegis .
Based on the implied power of the Many-Angled Ones in Thanos Imperative , Shuma could most definitely take this .
Apart from that , I am unaware of any feats that would put Shuma above skyfathers or other Elder Gods .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Shuma was supposedly one of the Many-Angled Ones , the same beings who dwarfed the Galactus Engine's power , and some of whose lackeys killed Aegis .
Based on the implied power of the Many-Angled Ones in Thanos Imperative , Shuma could most definitely take this .Apart from that , I am unaware of any feats that would put Shuma above skyfathers or other Elder Gods .
And it's not only feats. He has that ONE decent feat, the voodoo doll Earth but that was also his greatest humiliation as it was used against him. He was wrecked but the Earth survived just fine. And he was never really the same after that fight. It's actually the FIGHTS that count. He has NONE on panel vs anyone worth mentioning. Compare that to the likes of Dormammu, Set, Surtur, Mephisto/Satannish, etc.. who actually have gone up against other major demons, abstracts, and gods.
Originally posted by CogitoThose gods live in there own dimensions/ pocket universe.
See, this is why Marvel's hierarchy annoys me.How is Shuma supposed to conquer universes if it's even debatable whether or not he beats the gods of a single planet?
Just because they are earth gods doesnt mean planatary power.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, two of those same "Abstracts" (Tenerberous and Aegis) were killed by Surfer. He also was conscious after REPEATED attacks from them, whereas Odin ONE SHOTTED him.
Odin has one-shotted Thor as well , yet Thor managed to chip of a Celestial's armor , and survived multiple Celestial blasts in Thor 300 . Based on you logic Odin>>>>Celestials , when that clearly isn't the case .
Anyways , the point is that the Many-Angled Ones(there were 4 in total IIRC)supposedly dwarfed the power of the Galactus Engine based on the Shiar readings(if indeed those were the MAOs that were coming out of the Fault after the GE was dispatched) . The same Galactus Engine which forced a host of Celestials to retreat and brought a non-jobbing Galactus to his limits .
It took an at least universal level Abstract to cripple them , and even her power didn't permanently put them down .
Based on this implied level of power , Shuma takes this with ease .