Originally posted by BloodRainSpeculation means it is speculation.
Good you can't deny that, I'll just stand here unopposed.5 bucks says you've forgotten what this is about.
Anti-evil and with some anti-magic, by proof~ I wouldn't want to be touched by that if I were Russ.
Are we back to his strategy here being shoulder ramming Link?
Stating that the guy on the horse doesn't have omnidirectional vision. And in canon he can dodge Link's arrows in two battles, as beast and man.
Congrats, another simple point completely missed. On that Jason thing, even if his line of sight didn't matter, its still just him outspeeding a normal human.
"Whats the assumption and logic backing TB vamps only having super speed/reactions when moving at 'blitzing' speed and not always?"
"They have it"
Theres no logic to say they lose their speed and reactions when not moving at blitz speeds. Further he was running when he was tagged by a net.Lest we forget that Russell tried to 'blitz' away from Eric when under the Sun, and Eric was able to grab his arm. A vampire around 1,800 years younger than him.
"I had a Dorf sig" You get sigs to promote your fandom to a sissy? Yes its superhuman, but with no damage on the pillar its only to the level of throwing a body across the room which is below throwing a Goron straight up.
Yes because the person who had a contest of strength with Link saying Link has gotten stronger is just talking out of his arse. Bo said he got stronger, we see he got stronger = he got stronger.
So bringing up Zant and Bulbin was pointless? Good.
Holding a saddle =/= applying force against Epona. Play the game.
Then we're in agreement that those 16 strength feats > 1 half feat, because he can has has done so and nothing discredits his strength. High, mid and low are all consistent.
Link is strong when he uses his strength but there are instances of him not using it as well.
16 to 1 says Link has this strength. 1 to 4 says Eric has that speed.
Well it has been days.
He won't be touched. Far too fast and strong to worry about Link.
Russell can toss him easily. You can't argue since Link lacks the weigh to hold his ground.
No matter what you say he is tagged canonically. We don't know if he sees them coming or not but we do know he is always tagged.
We don't ever see Dorf or Link moving this fast. Ever. Pretty simple.
They have the reactions but are more susceptible to being attacked as they stand still as opposed. Was he tagged by a net by humans or vampires ?
Eric put the thing on his arm before he knew and it was weakness exploitation. He was also under the sun before the Fae blood wore off. Context, kiddo.
What Dorf sig ? There was damage.
Bo and Link needed the boots but were always strong enough to contend with them as they weren't that impressive.
No, they both crushed Link. Relevant.
I have you need to apply strength in order to hold on and establish dominance over the horse.
No, I disagree as Links feats aren't as impressive as Russell's nor can he do so with ease or without gear.
Nah, Link needs gear and a sword to tear up his foes whereas Russell just needs his hands.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteHe was hurt and was also ko'd by Bulbins men.
Provide a strength feat that would allow Russell Edgington to harm someone who cannot be hurt by 5-10 tons of force behind an axe.You mean like how Link stopped Dangoro with his bare hands? haermm
35+tons per shoe, 70+ on magnetic floors. Edgington could not lift even one.
Link needed gear but the Gorons were not that impressive combat strength wise.
Prove it.
Originally posted by quanchi112Only because you're refusing to accept that Link got tougher, despite taking on their king.
He is still hurt. We also see him beaten by Bulbins men.Not really. We don't ever see a Goron or Link do so to flesh.
Really? A strong human with a sledgehammer can decapitate a human, does this mean they're above Gorons now?
If a Goron lifted up a mountain but never cut someone, does that mean it couldn't harm a human?
Originally posted by BloodRainHe did become more formidable and slightly stronger.
Only because you're refusing to accept that Link got tougher, despite taking on their king.Really? A strong human with a sledgehammer can decapitate a human, does this mean they're above Gorons now?
If a Goron lifted up a mountain but never cut someone, does that mean it couldn't harm a human?
Depends on how hard they hit him and where. Link is superhuman as well.
We need to see it translate over especially when they fight. We see Gladiator destroys planets but that doesn't mean he knocks Thor's head off.
Originally posted by quanchi112Stats increased, games shows this, bulbin replaced with king
He did become more formidable and slightly stronger.Depends on how hard they hit him and where. Link is superhuman as well.
We need to see it translate over especially when they fight. We see Gladiator destroys planets but that doesn't mean he knocks Thor's head off.
How about the obvious "it takes more strength to destroy large rocks than dehead people"?
Originally posted by BloodRainHe was more aware and his skills increased.
Stats increased, games shows this, bulbin replaced with kingHow about the obvious "it takes more strength to destroy large rocks than dehead people"?
Feats like these don't translate over just like Gladiator can't punch Thor's head off despite Gladiator being able to destroy planets.
Originally posted by quanchi112Care to prove this?
He was more aware and his skills increased.Feats like these don't translate over just like Gladiator can't punch Thor's head off despite Gladiator being able to destroy planets.
Maybe not for inconsistent comic characters. So I ask, generic vampire faced with a Goron that just threw a mountain into space, he punches the vamp, what happens? Does the vamp tank this hit or does his whole person get splattered?
But hey, guess this'll rid us of Russ' car feat.
Originally posted by BloodRainWe have been over this a million times.
Care to prove this?Maybe not for inconsistent comic characters. So I ask, generic vampire faced with a Goron that just threw a mountain into space, he punches the vamp, what happens? Does the vamp tank this hit or does his whole person get splattered?
But hey, guess this'll rid us of Russ' car feat.
I never said the car feat determines how he matches up with peers I just listed a feat since you guys worship feats.
I know better.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was hurt and was also ko'd by Bulbins men.Link needed gear but the Gorons were not that impressive combat strength wise.
Prove it.
'Combat strength wise'. Inventing new types of strength so you can discount their feats, like you did with magic. Predictable. Boring, too. Gorons are class 100.
Russell's best strength feat is less than class 1. He cannot, with that feat, lift a 35 ton mass.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteHe was hurt and can further be hurt if you let Bulbin strike you.
He was not hurt, the game does not show him being hurt, you're making shit up again. First five minutes of the game aren't relevant because Link became more powerful later on.'Combat strength wise'. Inventing new types of strength so you can discount their feats, like you did with magic. Predictable. Boring, too. Gorons are class 100.
Russell's best strength feat is less than class 1. He cannot, with that feat, lift a 35 ton mass.
No, this is the way to debate since feats usually don't translate over to fights,
No, thy Arent. Laughable.
Russell rips his spine out.
Originally posted by quanchi112And to date you've failed to give a canon and eventual response nine hundred ninty-nine thousand, nine hundred ninety-ninet times, until now I hope.
We have been over this a million times.I never said the car feat determines how he matches up with peers I just listed a feat since you guys worship feats.
I know better.
And now we con freely throw his best showing out? And im waiting for the answer, what happens when mountain throwing fist meets feeble face?
Gameplay is not an argument, Quan.
Punching strength is punching strength. Rolling strength is rolling strength. We've seen Gorons punch through and smash solid stone as well as destroy it by rolling. This is their combat strength.
Their class 100 feats disagree with you.
Russell is too slow, too weak.
Originally posted by BloodRainI gave an answer to this.
And to date you've failed to give a canon and eventual response nine hundred ninty-nine thousand, nine hundred ninety-ninet times, until now I hope.And now we con freely throw his best showing out? And im waiting for the answer, what happens when mountain throwing fist meets feeble face?
When did I ever say ignore a showing ?
Depends on what happens when they run into their peers. Mostly it doesn't translate over.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYou argue it over the arrow feat. You pick and choose which is the way of bias.
Gameplay is not an argument, Quan.Punching strength is punching strength. Rolling strength is rolling strength. We've seen Gorons punch through and smash solid stone as well as destroy it by rolling. This is their combat strength.
Their class 100 feats disagree with you.
Russell is too slow, too weak.
We don't see them punch through weak flesh. Sorry.
Your exaggerations are just that.
Faster and strong enough to slap his head off. Bulbins men crushed him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You argue it over the arrow feat. You pick and choose which is the way of bias.We don't see them punch through weak flesh. Sorry.
Your exaggerations are just that.
Faster and strong enough to slap his head off. Bulbins men crushed him.
^This is a .gif file that proves you wrong. Hurr.
You're going to say the above feat isn't class 100?
Russell lacks good enough strength or speed feats to harm Link.
