Originally posted by The ScenarioThe triforce doesn't amp his power that is the triforce of power.
Especially? There's nothing special about a 1/5 low showing before even gaining the Triforce of Courage. If anything, that one KO is the outlier, it's inconsistent with every other portrayal.Also, please answer my questions? Do you you want to beg, O Great and Powerful Quanchi?
It shows what can ko him. That force can ko the weakling,
I already have.
How come you can't answer 2 when you've already admitted it? And cant even answer 4? O.o
And to anyone no knowing, this is the speed/disarming scene. Take note of it happening when Jason isn't looking:
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Originally posted by BloodRainYou are just guessing they weigh the same. Speculation. Nothing official.Bill 80kg. Car 680kg. White Rhino 2,500kg. How is flicking Bill or tipping the car above smacking around something bigger than a Rhino?
Admittance, interesting.
Jason's visuals is the only thing that matters. Whats the difference between this and you running up to a cop without them looking at you? Are you somehow superhuman, or did you just sneak up? In your mind would all stealthy humans have superhuman speed?
Refusing to answer a simple question. Fact. If Dorf does not have omnidirectional vision, getting hit by something he doesn't see means nothing. Fact. If you give me evidenceless repeated points, I'll participate in the circle.
It must be easy to blindly deny canon battles, in-build animation and the obvious dev intentions. Dorf can dodge arrows, so Dorf can dodge arrows. Dev >
[b]Nothing to do with comparing Eric's speed to Ganondorf's
Can't say you're not basing Eric's speed on a single instance.When have I not been a Russ fan? Silly Quan. Take it that reading comprehension didn't go so well.. the crack was already there, and was 3ft below where she hit it. Her body did not cause any damage to the pillar. Basically: Throwing a person across a room, nothing more.
A bullet is a bullet, and arrow is an arrow, a net is a net. Who fires it does not change its speed. (And a human slap, and Bill's gun)
Russell weighs as much as Link (give or take), making the Boots unneeded.
Hyperbole cannot be proven. The MS proves this ability several times. Wait, were you just hung up on the 'destroy' part? No ones saying it one-shots everything evil. Just as no one can deny the stacks of descriptions, character statements (Dorf, the target, and Hylia, the creator, being the main two) and visual effects of the Blade proving that it does considerably more damage to evil.
You seem to be forgetting that Bulbin and Zant are your durability claims, not Link's strength ones. Also seem to have forgotten that the goat came before he got canonly stronger. Leaving you with a single instance where a few posts back you were positive it was Link using force against Epona..
Doesnt this just mean you're 'clinging' to a single debatable instance against 16 consistent ones? (I added throwing around torso-sized rocks pre-ToC and destroying suits of armour with B&C)
Even assuming you're right about Epona, that'd be the opposite of what you're doing with Eric. Eric has one instance for supersonic and several instances against, when Link has several instances for this strength and one instance against. You're saying Eric is and Link isn't. [/B]
No, you just need to calm down.
The cop would hear me especially if I charge him in thirty feet or so. Jason had no idea due to his speed.
Point is he is hit by arrows and never canonically avoids them, just a gameplay mechanic.
No, that isn't canon.
Eric's speed is far faster than the eye can see unlike Dorf. It's that simple.
You are a traitor. Cool. You admitted damage was done. Too late now.
Bullets are faster than arrows. Glad that is settled.
Not when he uses momentum and speed.
I never disagreed it is slightly more effective against evil. Shitty weapon only works against shitty evil Zelda characters apparently.
He never got canonically stronger. He did use his force there.
Eric's movements are too fast for human eye unlike Link. Same ole same ole.
Originally posted by BloodRainHe is on guard but can't follow his movements anyways. We can't follow his movements until he stops.
How come you can't answer 2 when you've already admitted it? And cant even answer 4? O.oAnd to anyone no knowing, this is the speed/disarming scene. Take note of it happening when Jason isn't looking:
YouTube video
Russell kills Link before he pulls out his shitty sword.
Thank you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I will answer but not in true or false type fashion.1. Superhuman to a degree. +
2. Increase his weight. x
3. No. It is inconsistent like any other character in fiction. x
4. Speculation. x
5. Yes. +
6. Yes. +Part 2.
1. Superhuman strength. Vampire head slapping off feat, shoulder shrug, and spine ripping combat feats. +
2. Very fast. Disarms Jason at 30 feet away or longer before he can even see him. +
3. You need both. That's the point. You highlight only feats and ignore portrayal when it benefits you. x
Why do you insist on being difficult, though? It's not difficult, so are you just refusing to answer out of rebellion or something? Anyway, 12/21
I determine from this that we don't need to review Link's strength, the Sol's effects, or True Blood vampires. I feel we can also safely skip Russel's strength and speed.
Problem areas are going to be the Iron Boots, Link's durability, and Goron weight. Add to that the difference between feats and portrayals and I think we have a starting point! Thank you for your participation in this glorious endeavor.
Originally posted by quanchi112Are you to deny that an animal larger than a rhino would be at least its weight?
You are just guessing they weigh the same. Speculation. Nothing official.
Originally posted by quanchi112You and your emotions..
No, you just need to calm down.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The cop would hear me especially if I charge him in thirty feet or so. Jason had no idea due to his speed.
Originally posted by quanchi112Point is he doesnt have omnidirctional vision. C'mon this is getting easy if you're not gonna defend yourself.
Point is he is hit by arrows and never canonically avoids them, just a gameplay mechanic.
No, that isn't canon.
Eric's speed is far faster than the eye can see unlike Dorf. It's that simple.
Yeah it is.
Nothing to do with comparing Eric's speed to Ganondorf's
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are a traitor. Cool. You admitted damage was done. Too late now.
Bullets are faster than arrows. Glad that is settled.
Not when he uses momentum and speed.
Who fires it does not change its speed. (And a human slap, and Bill's gun) [Try to follow the actual topic, not go off on delusions. This is about Eric getting tagged]
Not heavy, no boots needed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never disagreed it is slightly more effective against evil. Shitty weapon only works against shitty evil Zelda characters apparently.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He never got canonically stronger. He did use his force there.Eric's movements are too fast for human eye unlike Link. Same ole same ole.
Its getting sad that you can't read my posts properly..
You seem to be forgetting that Bulbin and Zant are your durability claims, not Link's strength ones. Also seem to have forgotten that the goat came before he got canonly stronger. Leaving you with a single instance where a few posts back you were positive it was Link using force against Epona..
Doesnt this just mean you're 'clinging' to a single debatable instance against 16 consistent ones? (I added throwing around torso-sized rocks pre-ToC and destroying suits of armour with B&C)
Even assuming you're right about Epona, that'd be the opposite of what you're doing with Eric. Eric has one instance for supersonic and several instances against, when Link has several instances for this strength and one instance against. You're saying Eric is and Link isn't.
Originally posted by The ScenarioI did answer. You are not going to choose how I answer your questions.
Thank you.Why do you insist on being difficult, though? It's not difficult, so are you just refusing to answer out of rebellion or something? Anyway, 12/21
I determine from this that we don't need to review Link's strength, the Sol's effects, or True Blood vampires. I feel we can also safely skip Russel's strength and speed.
Problem areas are going to be the Iron Boots, Link's durability, and Goron weight. Add to that the difference between feats and portrayals and I think we have a starting point! Thank you for your participation in this glorious endeavor.
Russell wins. Yw.
Originally posted by BloodRainSpeculation.
Are you to deny that an animal larger than a rhino would be at least its weight?You and your emotions..
Flat ground, easy to sneak. Who cares about speed when no ones watching to react to it.
Point is he doesnt have omnidirctional vision. C'mon this is getting easy if you're not gonna defend yourself.
Yeah it is.
[b]Nothing to do with comparing Eric's speed to Ganondorf's
Youve stated you're a fan of Dorf several times now :T The crack was already there, and was 3ft below where she hit it. Her body did not cause any damage to the pillar. Basically: Throwing a person across a room, nothing more
Who fires it does not change its speed. (And a human slap, and Bill's gun) [Try to follow the actual topic, not go off on delusions. This is about Eric getting tagged]
Not heavy, no boots needed.
Good, so anti-evil.
"Youve gotten a sight stronger.." Then seeing Link get stronger = canonly getting stronger.
Its getting sad that you can't read my posts properly..
You seem to be forgetting that Bulbin and Zant are your durability claims, not Link's strength ones. Also seem to have forgotten that the goat came before he got canonly stronger. Leaving you with a single instance where a few posts back you were positive it was Link using force against Epona..
Doesnt this just mean you're 'clinging' to a single debatable instance against 16 consistent ones? (I added throwing around torso-sized rocks pre-ToC and destroying suits of armour with B&C)
Even assuming you're right about Epona, that'd be the opposite of what you're doing with Eric. Eric has one instance for supersonic and several instances against, when Link has several instances for this strength and one instance against. You're saying Eric is and Link isn't. [/B]
You are the one kissing ass.
We still see him never once canonically dodge an arrow but canonically defeated by them. You can shoot him with arrows facing him as well. Canonically he always loses.
No.
Eric's movements are unfollowable unlike Dorf's.
I am a fan of Russell's not Sissydorf. No, it was not. Throwing a person across a room is superhuman strength.
Yes, as he isn't using his speed at the time he is tagged.
But speed and momentum can launch him minus the boots.
No, it just dispels evil magic.
That isn't meant to be taken literally.
I never forgot that. He never got stronger literally just more skilled aka stronger.
He did use force against her.
Yes, he can do so but can also be ko'd by weak characters showing he relies on his skill.
Eric is fast when he uses his speed but there are instances of him not using it as well.
Originally posted by BloodRainYes, she did. Eric has been tagged before but still has the feat.
Note: She left no damage on the pillar. Eric was tagged. My consistent 16 to your questionable 1, when you can take Eric's single high over his few low.Making a repeated not as I want you to actually responded to what I'm saying, if this debate is to go somewhere.
I have responded.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They are far greater than Links feats and when we take a look at Links beatdown from Bulbins men we see this is a stomp in Russell's favor.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteHe did hurt him with an axe. He just did not kill him with an axe. Yes, he is since we can follow Dorfs movements unlike Russell's.
Russell isn't even as strong as K.Bulbin, who could not hurt Link with an axe. Nor is he faster than Ganon. I'm sorry but don't claim things you cannot back.
You just say random baseless things. That's your m.o.
That's not what the cutscene shows. The scene shows him hitting Link and Link immediately getting to his feet none the worse. Stronger than Russell, and with an axe, Link was fine. Russell can't hurt him. Nor can Russell's combat speed compare to Ganon's, who can casually avoid Link's awesome arrows, each of which is faster on its' own than Edgington, so, lol.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteHe survives probably due to adrenaline just like punching someone doesn't mean it doesn't hurt just that they don't feel the effects right away.
That's not what the cutscene shows. The scene shows him hitting Link and Link immediately getting to his feet none the worse. Stronger than Russell, and with an axe, Link was fine. Russell can't hurt him. Nor can Russell's combat speed compare to Ganon's, who can casually avoid Link's awesome arrows, each of which is faster on its' own than Edgington, so, lol.
No, he isn't stronger than Russell since he has never ripped out a spine, slapped a head off, etc.
Prove Link is super durable and immune to physical attacks. You can't you just cling to certain feats while ignoring others.
Gameplay mechanic. Canonically he is defeated by arrows. Irony.
Adrenaline, making you more durable since 200k bc!
Those are all piss weak feats next to bitchslapping something the approximate size of a rhino aside like K.Bulbin did.
Link tanks an axe to the face, isn't crushed by Dangoro, isn't torn apart by wearing his iron boots while pulling down the dragon, isn't killed by being fired out of a cannon in the sky to the ground, etc, etc.
Link is too durable for someone as weak as Russell.
Learn what a mechanic is.