Smack Head!
So Link can survive a cannon drop and takes damage from a stick?
You guys are good at playing run around.
I cal it Looney Tune physics. The hero takes circumstantial damage when it suits him/her but when it can kill them....all damage is ignored.
I explained my logic behind the boots just fine.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Afraid not.You don't get to throw out Link's durability feats just because you don't like them.
Yes I do.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Smack Head!So Link can survive a cannon drop and takes damage from a stick?
You guys are good at playing run around.
I cal it Looney Tune physics. The hero takes circumstantial damage when it suits him/her but when it can kill them....all damage is ignored.
I explained my logic behind the boots just fine.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Link can do to the same thing to the boss Dangaro without the boots?, lifting him up and throwing him?
Link cannot stop Dangoro's rolling without the boots. No one is arguing against this particular point. However, Link then picks up and throws Dangoro, which is the strength feat we're talking about.
Now, the Iron Boots have no purpose except to make Link heavier. They do nothing else. That should mean that Link picking up and throwing Dangoro, using his upper body strength, has absolutely nothing to do with the boots. However, quanchi seems to think that Link needs the boots to throw things, hence the "do the boots make Link stronger?" question he keeps dodging. If the answer is yes, he's denying what the boots canonically do and making up a power they don't have. If the answer is no, he's conceding that Link has super strength.
I hope this helps everyone involved.
By the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJACleGuOs#t=4m37s
So Link can survive a cannon drop and takes damage from a stick?
Not what we're saying. The mechanics argument is that game mechanics such as health and damage aren't an accurate representation of a character, only the story (cutscenes and required events) is canon, whereas the "optional" gameplay is not.
Link being hit by a bokoblin in the game is not canon.
Link being hit by a bokoblin in cutscene, however, is canon.
So is Link's durability improving during the game, as he gains power. This is not the same as saying the Piece of Heart mechanic is also canon. One is a statement made in game by reliable characters and steadily improving feats, while the other is a non-canon health bar. Link in the beginning of the game can be knocked out by a bokoblin with a club, but later take a blunt axe to the face without damage, but it isn't because he has more hearts.
Exposition over.
Originally posted by the ninjakWell, no, he doesn't take damage without the boots because he's still just as durable, he's just not heavy enough to stop a heavier mass in motion with so little space.
So Link still has the strength to throw Dangaro without the boots? Agreed.And without the boots he takes damage? Agreed.
That's all I wanted to know. So how come a superfast vampire can't pierce him from behind?
Because Russell doesn't seem to be strong enough. =P
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, no, he doesn't take damage without the boots because he's still just as durable, he's just not heavy enough to stop a heavier mass in motion with so little space.Because Russell doesn't seem to be strong enough. =P
So Link doesn't take damage when he isn't wearing the boots when Dangaro rolls into him?
OK I understand so a basic rule of videos within a game solidifies what a character can in fact withstand in regards to damage over what the gameplay itself shows the character taking?
That's something that needs to be shown in the rules of the All Versus Forum for us peoples who didn't spend time in the GVF.
It's a nice rule. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBro
Wow, this thread has really opened my eyes.Obviously GTA characters can survive being ridden with assault rifle bullets, and never die even when shot in the head, they are just sent to the hospital, and out in an hour.
Yeah these kinds of feats like Hitman 47 taking such damge always troubled me in regards to such threads. I'm aware now.
Gotta learn eventually.
Originally posted by the ninjakBasically, this, yes. 😛
OK I understand so a basic rule of videos within a game solidifies what a character can in fact withstand in regards to damage over what the gameplay itself shows the character taking?That's something that needs to be shown in the rules of the All Versus Forum for us peoples who didn't spend time in the GVF.
It's a nice rule. 👆
Does that clear it up, and we can be cool now?