Android 18 Vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Greek Pantheon creates some stupid fireball and she deflects it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
IDK. How strong is 18?

Wonder Woman has taken blows from bloodlusted Superman before. Professor Zoom was also beating her up at one point with lightspeed attacks and she claimed it hit harder than Supeman. Naturally she shrugged it off and beat him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't know if it surrounds her. The Force Field is part of her bracelets so I assume its as strong as they are. Also since as you can see it blocked Power Girls punch, yeah probably.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She once beat up the Justice League while bindfolded. It was noted she was having trouble with Flash's speed but then compensated and got a punch in.

Here she gets punched at the speed of light by Zoom (as fast as the Flash) and then claims that he's not actually faster than her. She later beats him by kicking rocks at him and then lassoing him. While blind.

Theres also this. From what I've heard all those streaks of light are moving at lightspeed.

I don't know what to make of the time traveling guy, honestly.

So far, I'm going with DBZ speed here. They move many times the speed of the light just in the opening episodes; see Piccolo's moon beam, Raditz dodging the Special Beam Cannon. As of the Android saga, character fighting speed is... ludicrous.

LL pwns the thread. Good work; that will show them.

I think Diana's bracelets will tank/deflect any energy beam 18 can dish out. If 18 gets hit by WW's tiara it is GG. Same with the lasso...unless 18 has no soul. Physically/Hand 2 hand well I think its a closer fight with Diana having the edge in skill and possibly strength/durability.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I think Diana's bracelets will tank/deflect any energy beam 18 can dish out.

Originally posted by Robtard
LL pwns the thread. Good work; that will show them.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I doubt that. Small ones, sure. But the massive, planet-cracking, earth-scarring kind that any DBZ character can throw out with ease, I doubt it. At least until someone posts a scan of Diana deflecting something like that, I'm going avoid no-limits and assume that she can't. Plus that one small fireball Neph posted looked like it took some effort.

With classic Diana, she's blocked stuff like Darkseid's Omega Effect.

In all of the DC continuity that ran from Crisis on Infinite Earths to Flash Point, it was never once broken.

Flash is many many many times faster than the speed of light. He moves at attoseconds and faster. Zoom is faster than the flash.

Originally posted by Q99
With classic Diana, she's blocked stuff like Darkseid's Omega Effect.

In all of the DC continuity that ran from Crisis on Infinite Earths to Flash Point, it was never once broken.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Characters thousands of times weaker than 18 have been seen punching, kicking, smashing, and being smashed in to solid rock multiple times. Occasionally we also see them shredding metal with ease-- watch Nappa do it to a plane for fun in the show's intro. 18 doing so here (8:44) to some cop cars. For context, Trunks' sword cut Frieza (someone about 30,000 time stronger than Nappa) in to ribbons--that sword shattered when it touched 18's arm.

Being thousands of times stronger than someone who is able to smash people into rock does not put her in WW's strength range. She is, after all, nearly as strong as Superman. And WW, GL, and Superman were able to move the earth.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Alright now we just need to know how much can Diana's bracelets withstand (physically and energy-wise).

Being able to block the combined power of the Greek Pantheon would place her bracers well beyond the planetary level (although that may be PC not sure). Still, as Q99 said, she was able to deflect the Omega Beams which is incredible.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The Flash moves at light speed, right?

No. Far faster.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So far, I'm going with DBZ speed here. They move many times the speed of the light just in the opening episodes; see Piccolo's moon beam, Raditz dodging the Special Beam Cannon. As of the Android saga, character fighting speed is... ludicrous.

Them moving FTL in the opening episodes is non-canon. This is because the English dub is mangled and the anime is considered non-canon.

Originally posted by ares834
Being thousands of times stronger than someone who is able to smash people into rock does not put her in WW's strength range. She is, after all, nearly as strong as Superman. And WW, GL, and Superman were able to move the earth.

Originally posted by ares834
Being able to block the combined power of the Greek Pantheon would place her bracers well beyond the planetary level (although that may be PC not sure). Still, as Q99 said, she was able to deflect the Omega Beams which is incredible.

Originally posted by ares834
No. Far faster.

Them moving FTL in the opening episodes is non-canon. This is because the English dub is mangled and the anime is considered non-canon.

Still, the moon is 350,000+ km away from Earth, and Saiyan saga (read: weak as all f*ck) Piccolo obliterated it with one hand with very little effort in seconds. Saiyan saga (read: weak as f*ck) Vegeta did the same thing to Arlia and its moon. Literally multiply their power by about 30,000. I'm sorry, I'm just not impressed by Wonder Woman.

Yet.

EDIT: I just watched the scene again, and Piccolo's beam reaches the Moon pretty much right away, but it still takes a couple of seconds to blow.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Kay. I think she definitely has enough physical strength. Can Superman or Wonder Woman blow up a planet without breaking a sweat? Or rather, can they resist an attack that can blow up a planet with ease? If they can, I think we've got a tie.

Not on an average, no.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien I'm seeing a problem emerging of measuring ki output versus... god(?) power output. Still, I just echo my above point.

Well, as mentioned earlier when she crosses them they create a force field.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If you're suggesting the Dragonball anime be ignored and we use solely the manga, then I would kindly ask you to f*ck off. Though I wouldn't ask you that cuz I like you... 🙂

Still, the moon is 350,000+ km away from Earth, and Saiyan saga (read: weak as all f*ck) Piccolo obliterated it with one hand with very little effort in seconds. Saiyan saga (read: weak as f*ck) Vegeta did the same thing to Arlia and its moon. Literally multiply their power by about 30,000. I'm sorry, I'm just not impressed by Wonder Woman.

Yet.

Hmm... Generally it seems to be the way people debate DBZ they restrict it to the manga but if we use the anime I could see the Android winning this. Of course, they also have low showings like Super Saiyan Goku getting hurt by a rock or a elephant.

Also, power levels don't seem to scale linearly. Otherwise the farmer in the first episode with a PL of 5 should be able to destroy mountains.

Originally posted by Blight
Flash is many many many times faster than the speed of light. He moves at attoseconds and faster. Zoom is faster than the flash.

Yeah consistency isn't that franchise's niche. But the manga just kind of... uggh. What I want to know is just how much, uh, force let's say, Diana's bracelets can withstand. Like if the Omega Beam had missed her, would it have annihilated half a continent? Cuz something so destructive that can be thrown out with such ease would need to be countered again and again and again. So if she's fast to block them, can she block them. Ditto for her force field.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah consistency isn't that franchise's niche. But the manga just kind of... uggh. What I want to know is just how much, uh, force let's say, Diana's bracelets can withstand. Like if the Omega Beam had missed her, would it have annihilated half a continent? Cuz something so destructive that can be thrown out with such ease would need to be countered again and again and again. So if she's fast to block them, can she block them. Ditto for her force field.

Originally posted by Blight
The omega beam can kill just about anyone pretty much no matter what. It can also teleport or cause severe pain. It depends on what Darkseid wants it
to do if I recall correctly.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
B*tchin. So there's no absolutely no limit to its range or destructive power? He wants to blow up a planet, boom, its done?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
B*tchin. So there's no absolutely no limit to its range or destructive power? He wants to blow up a planet, boom, its done?

There was a story where he used it to teleport a planet between systems (One of it's secondary functions- once something is un-made with the beams, he can re-make them as well).

Originally posted by Robtard
Not to mention that DBZ attacks are about lightspeed levels. Piccolo (at PwrLv 322) in early DBZ shoots the moon and it's destroyed about 1.5 seconds later.

By the end of BDZ, Vegeta is more powerful than Perfect Cell (PwrLv 165,000,000).

Only the manga is canon.

Pre-reboot Diana punches Android 18's head off.

Android 18's best punch on the other hand couldn't so much as blemish Diana.

Then we could go all the way to pre Crisis Wonder Woman!.... who once towed the sun with her lasso.

How strong is DCnU Diana Q99?

Haven't kept up with her like, at all.

Her best feat is probably casually busting a Green Lantern shield. And, while not exactly a strength feat,, she gets a tremendous boost when she removes her bracers (they supposedly inhibit some of her godly power). She does this against Artemis, initially she is losing the fight but once she removes her bracers she stomps Artemis.