The Doctor vs Doctor Doom

Started by Blight3 pages

Doom has arguably superior if not comparable tech to Doctor Who. The fact that he's also got Sorcery makes him the winner.

Yeah. Doom has made some of the most impressive tech in Marvel. A lot of his tech actually replicates magical feats, and like Blight said, he's got magic to boot. Strange as Sorcerer Supreme acknowledged how powerful he was, and he could have been Sorcerer Supreme replacement.

I think the Doctor is more intelligent and can make better use of prep. Like making lifewarpers in an hour with scrap or an mri machine.

/shrugs

Originally posted by BloodRain
I think the Doctor is more intelligent and can make better use of prep. Like making lifewarpers in an hour with scrap or an mri machine.

/shrugs

You think the Doctor is more intelligent than Dr. Doom?

Don't know too much about Doom.

Doom cured Thing on a whim when Reed(easily one of the smartest people in existence) had been trying to do it for years by that point. He even created a device that let him transform at will. And that's not the height of what he's done.

He's siphoned power from Beyonder and Scarlet Witch with technological means; that's a massive feat.

He also stole Galactus' power in the same arc that he obtained Beyonder's power.

Beyonder > Anything Doctor Who could muster.

Cool. The Doctor created a big bang. Single handily ended the Time War which spanned the universe. Depending on whether the books are considered canon, erased the Time Lords from history (for those who don't know the Time Lords erased magic from the Universe because they didn't like it). And I'm sure I am forgetting several other incredible feats.

Then he has the Tradis on top of it which supposedly is capable of an omniversal explosion.

Yes, Doom may have the better high feats. But the Doctor consistently operates at a very high level. One that seems to be beyond Doom's average.

The beyonder is a Multiversal threat and nigh omnipotent...

Read my post again.

I admitted Doom has the higher feats (BTW the Doctor has faced down multiversal threats as well) but the Doctor's average is higher than Doom's. And therefore, I'm going to give him the win.

Why are we assuming Doom is operating on Average?

Because on average he will...

So the Doctor ended the war how? As I see it, he used the Great Key of Rassilon to create "The Moment" which ended the war. Could this have been done without this object, and is this object something considered Standard Equipment?

Because if we're just using prep-time to get artifacts, Doom could easily just grab the Ultimate Nullifier, or the Infinity Gauntlet, or THOTI (It's reaching, but so is the artifact grab thing in the first place IMO).

If Doom could easily assemble the Infinity Gauntlet he would have done it a long time ago. And no, the ones he has in his possession right now do not work within his universe. As for the Ultimate nullifier, it's not certain he has it. Even if he does, we don't know if he can survive using it.

The Doctor, however, also has access to incredibly powerful "artifacts" like the Heart of the Tardis.

Edit: As for the key, I'm not sure. Hell, I don't even know what is considered fully canon within the Whoverse besides the TV show.

My point was Anti-Artifacts in the first place. Regardless, I'm out. Unfortunately I can't debate when I just don't know enough about Dr. Who, I'm only on the first season of the newer series.

What I can say is I'm not quite convinced yet.

The Doctor stomps Doom's ass into oblivion, via wibbly wobbly timey wimey... stuff! 131

Doom prevails.

Originally posted by ares834
Cool. The Doctor created a big bang. Single handily ended the Time War which spanned the universe. Depending on whether the books are considered canon, erased the Time Lords from history (for those who don't know the Time Lords erased magic from the Universe because they didn't like it). And I'm sure I am forgetting several other incredible feats.
He turned dozens of Eternals into ephemerals (mortals) with a single shard of the Time Vortex he kept in his pocket.

Eternals are among the most advanced races in Doctor Who, as trascendant beings they are generally above even the Time Lords. They are basically cosmic beings, from what I hear a single Eternal can pull a galaxy into the Void.

This happens when you put Doomtards to discuss, you hear to no end "Beyonder! Remember the Beyonder?" and they always leave out getting punked by Thor and the FF when prepped. Needless to say, to have a snowball's chance in hell to match The Doctor, Doom would need access to some cosmic artifact, with their regular resources he gets utterly humilliated and crushed by Kang... Let alone the frigging Doctor.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes. Though since he's the same person I doubt it matters much. His knowledge and stuff caries over, right?

Meant to come back to this point. The Doctor's ability to regenerate allow him to retain the overall knowledge of his previous incarnations, but the full on memories and experiences fade with that previous incarnation's, at least I think. Each Doctor is effectively a different person with a new personality that shares core traits throughout. He can remember things that happened before, but I don't know how accurately he can recall the information.

That said, The Doctor's notorious for putting the proverbial monkey wrench in plans, and even with prep, I'm not sure Doom would be able to pull one over on him. The Eleventh's got some even quirkier feats than others, including getting himself killed (outright killed, no regeneration) and getting better. Twice.