Entropy aegis steel gauntlet

Started by Stoic6 pages

@Galan. There are fine differences between Entropy, and Nullification. A true immortal by nature should not be effected by entropy, as the nature of entropy is to erode, rot, evolve, or change on a physical level, whereas Nullification's nature is to erase, or void out. Nullification is immediate negation, entropy is gradual. Then again, some writers are stupid. Would you say that the writer of the comics that portray DC's laws of entropy are stupid, and do not know what the word means?

Also ask yourself if Entropy was that undeniable..

How come Doomsday was retrievable in it?

Originally posted by Stoic
@Galan. There are fine differences between Entropy, and Nullification. A true immortal by nature should not be effected by entropy, as the nature of entropy is to erode, rot, evolve, or change on a physical level, whereas Nullification's nature is to erase, or void out. Nullification is immediate negation, entropy is gradual. Then again, some writers are stupid. Would you say that the writer of the comics that portray DC's laws of entropy are stupid, and do not know what the word means?

Start using DC's definition for entropy.

Entropy in DC has never been shown to "erode on a physical level". It has easily destroyed time/space (Infinity/Eternity, if you will). Entropy is the end of all things.

Originally posted by Cogito
Start using DC's definition for entropy.

Entropy in DC has never been shown to "erode on a physical level". It has easily destroyed time/space (Infinity/Eternity, if you will). Entropy is the end of all things.

Is that what it was said to be? I mean "an end to all things"? If so that is a linear statement, nullification is not linear, it is automatic. You and I are being destroyed at this very moment by entropic forces. A true immortal would not be affected by entropy, because they are unchanging. I guess the writer was stupid then. OK so there is nothing that can defeat the Aegis, because it holds the power of the end of all things.

Originally posted by Stoic
@Galan. There are fine differences between Entropy, and Nullification. A true immortal by nature should not be effected by entropy, as the nature of entropy is to erode, rot, evolve, or change on a physical level, whereas Nullification's nature is to erase, or void out. Nullification is immediate negation, entropy is gradual. Then again, some writers are stupid. Would you say that the writer of the comics that portray DC's laws of entropy are stupid, and do not know what the word means?
We've already been over this. I showed you multiple scans of entropy erasing time, space, matter, and energy... Reality itself... Leaving nothing but a blank void in its wake... In the blink of an eye. Do I really need to post those scans again? You need to get the real world definition of entropy out of your head, and look at how it has been used in the fictional world of DC comics.

Aside from that, you want a specific scan of entropy killing a 'true' immortal (as if erasing universes isn't enough)..? Here you go:

Vandal Savage is as immortal as it gets.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Also ask yourself if Entropy was that undeniable..

How come Doomsday was retrievable in it?

Because after the events of Zero Hour, DD was able to be saved before entropy ever touched him:

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Also ask yourself if Entropy was that undeniable..

How come Doomsday was retrievable in it?

His dead bones evolved past the end of all things?

Originally posted by Stoic
Is that what it was said to be? I mean "an end to all things"? If so that is a linear statement, nullification is not linear, it is automatic. You and I are being destroyed at this very moment by entropic forces. A true immortal would not be affected by entropy, because they are unchanging. I guess the writer was stupid then. OK so there is nothing that can defeat the Aegis, because it holds the power of the end of all things.

Entropy in DC can be immediate.

And yes, Entropy can destroy anything, just like the Ultimate Nullifier.

The Aegis can be destroyed though, unless someone wants to claim no-limits. Sufficient power should do the trick. It also destroys the wearer's soul.

Originally posted by Galan007
We've already been over this. I showed you multiple scans of entropy erasing time, space, matter, and energy... Reality itself... Leaving nothing but a blank void in its wake... In the blink of an eye. Do I really need to post those scans again? You need to get the real world definition of entropy out of your head, and look at how it has been used in the fictional world of DC comics.

Aside from that, you want a specific scan of entropy killing a 'true' immortal (as if erasing universes isn't enough)..? Here you go:

Vandal Savage is as immortal as it gets.

Because after the events of Zero Hour, DD was able to be saved before entropy ever touched him:

Ok conceded that one haha. Forgot that bit.

Wait a second Galan. Read the last scan. if he was nullified, it would have been too late to save him because the entropic effects were already upon him.

I'm beginning to believe that the writer phucked up his continuity with the same pot buzz that he wrote. Whatever, this isn't that big a deal to me. But the last scan was based on a linear statement if you deconstruct it the statement itself. Seemed more linear than instant to me.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wait a second Galan. Read the last scan. if he was nullified, it would have been too late to save him because the entropic effects were already upon him.

I'm beginning to believe that the writer phucked up his continuity with the same pot buzz that he wrote. Whatever, this isn't that big a deal to me. But the last scan was based on a linear statement if you deconstruct it the statement itself. Seemed more linear than instant to me.

He was brought to the end of time. Not the literal end of time, because that's not possible, but a literal moment before. That was when Doomsday was dumped and that was when he was saved. As it said on panel, Entropy (the end of time) hadn't affected him yet. No inconsistencies to be found.

Originally posted by Cogito
Entropy in DC can be immediate.

And yes, Entropy can destroy anything, just like the Ultimate Nullifier.

The Aegis can be destroyed though, unless someone wants to claim no-limits. Sufficient power should do the trick. It also destroys the wearer's soul.

It would be logical to believe that it could be destroyed. After all it was formed from scrap correct? What was it that made the scrap?

Originally posted by Cogito
He was brought to the end of time. Not the literal end of time, because that's not possible, but a literal moment before. That was when Doomsday was dumped and that was when he was saved. As it said on panel, Entropy (the end of time) hadn't affected him yet. No inconsistencies to be found.
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Originally posted by Stoic
It would be logical to believe that it could be destroyed. After all it was formed from scrap correct? What was it that made the scrap?
An Imperiex Probe that was retrofitted with Apokoliptian tech.

Originally posted by Stoic
It would be logical to believe that it could be destroyed. After all it was formed from scrap correct? What was it that made the scrap?

It was made from a probe (many of which were destroyed), but it was augmented with Apokolips tech which apparently made it vastly more powerful.

Actual probes weren't capable of doing any of the things the EA did, so you kind of just have to roll with it.

Originally posted by Galan007
MoS #118.

Thanks, btw. I was skimming through several MoS issues in that range but must have skipped over that one.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Isnt entropy the Celestials weakness or something?
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Thanks. I admit though, it wasn't as well thought out and profound as your amazing contributions to other threads:

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The Ultimate nullifier had problems with Celestials.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The Ultimate nullifier had problems with Celestials.

Only because Hickman is a fxxking moron of a writer. The UN was used to reset the Multiverse by Reed to fix the damage caused by Abraxas' rampage, if should have been able to wipe the Rogues from existence.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The Ultimate nullifier had problems with Celestials.

It was an alternate UN iirc .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It was an alternate UN iirc .

Why would that matter now? According to Hickman, alt Reality Celestials = 616 Celestials. I'll bet anything that he intended that alt reality Nullifier to be = to the 616 version, that's how stupid he is.