Entropy aegis steel gauntlet

Christ you're getting picky.

I never said such a thing in the way you're implying.

I said Galactus can't survive (Marvel's) entropy. I still believe that. I believe Galactus and Franklin will watch the current universe die, which will trigger the start of the next. They're not surviving it. I believe you're twisting Franklin's words.

I never said that Marvel's entropy and DC's entropy were equals. I believe DC's to be more powerful, if anything, based on the fact that it has feats. Therefore I believe that anything that dies via Marvel's entropy would also die via DC's.

k? Good.

I asked whether or not Galactus was vulnerable to entropy and you used the Heat Death as an example , even though it doesn't indicate such a thing .

I am the one twisting Franklin's words !? Franklin TELLS US ON-PANEL that "we will watch as all that has been becomes something new" in that statement . You don't observe an action(the birth of the next universe here) unfold , by taking taking part in said action yourself .

That Galactus/Heat Death example was you trying to use Marvel entropy's (non) feat and apply it to DC entropy . Anyone who read through your posts on the previous page would see that .

If you believe DC entropy to be superior , use DC entropy's own feats , instead of misconstruing an on-panel statement(which implies quite the opposite of what you insinuated) regarding the Marvel variant .

Originally posted by Galan007
Why is "the heat death of everything" being compared to DC's entropy, anyway?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Back to the thread discussion , the Aegis probably stops at 6 or 8 imo , depending on whether or not Galactus is vulnerable to entropy ?

Originally posted by Cogito
Galactus is absolutely vulnerable to entropy. That's the whole him waiting out the heat death of the universe thing.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why is "the heat death of everything" being compared to DC's entropy, anyway?

en·tro·py   [en-truh-pee] Show IPA
noun
1.
Thermodynamics .
a.
(on a macroscopic scale) a function of thermodynamic variables, as temperature, pressure, or composition, that is a measure of the energy that is not available for work during a thermodynamic process. A closed system evolves toward a state of maximum entropy.
b.
(in statistical mechanics) a measure of the randomness of the microscopic constituents of a thermodynamic system. Symbol: S
2.
(in data transmission and information theory) a measure of the loss of information in a transmitted signal or message.
3.
(in cosmology) a hypothetical tendency for the universe to attain a state of maximum homogeneity in which all matter is at a uniform temperature (heat death).

Because it's the dictionary definition.

Originally posted by Cogito
Because it's the dictionary definition.

Originally posted by Cogito
Start using DC's definition for entropy.

Originally posted by Cogito
I never said that Marvel's entropy and DC's entropy were equals. I believe DC's to be more powerful, if anything, based on the fact that it has feats. Therefore I believe that anything that dies via Marvel's entropy would also die via DC's.

k? Good.

^^Considering how Galan has clarified that DC entropy is more of Marvel nullification's equivalent , I don't see Galactus surviving it .

That still doesn't excuse the fact that you did try and equate the two using that Heat Death example .

I used ABC logic, sue me. 😬

Originally posted by Cogito
Because it's the dictionary definition.

Why? Because in DC entropy is: "The only time... The only place known where life cannot possibly exist.":

Furthermore (and I just remembered this myself) Black Flash was also killed by dumping it into entropy:

So yeah, entropy can erase even conceptual beings, like Death.

Entropy(DC) = Nullification(Marvel)... The above was not directed at you, btw, I know you know (and agree with) that stuff.

^ I agree.

I used ABC logic, where DC's Entropy > Marvel's Entropy. If Marvel's Entropy can kill Galactus, then DC's can as well.

Clearly that angle wasn't too popular...

Originally posted by Cogito
^ I agree.

I used ABC logic, where DC's Entropy > Marvel's Entropy. If Marvel's Entropy can kill Galactus, then DC's can as well.

Clearly that angle wasn't too popular...

Originally posted by Galan007
The above was not directed at you, btw, I know you know (and agree with) that stuff.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^^Considering how Galan has clarified that DC entropy is more of Marvel nullification's equivalent , I don't see Galactus surviving it .

That still doesn't excuse the fact that you did try and equate the two using that Heat Death example .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
If it was directed at me , then know this :

Originally posted by Galan007
That would be Marvel's definition of entropy, then. DC's portrayal of entropy is [vastly] different-- so there is really no comparison to be had. Even if we assume Galactus/Frank can survive "the heat death of everything"(Marvel's rendition of entropy) it certainly doesn't mean they can survive DC's rendition of the force.

Why? Because in DC entropy is: "The only time... The only place known where life cannot possibly exist.":

Furthermore (and I just remembered this myself) Black Flash was also killed by dumping it into entropy:

So yeah, entropy can erase even conceptual beings, like Death.

Entropy(DC) = Nullification(Marvel)... The above was not directed at you, btw, I know you know (and agree with) that stuff.

Would that work on higher level abstracts like Death (Marvel) or Death (Endless)?

Although tbh , since the Mad Celestials did tank the UN(it doesn't matter anymore whether it was alternate or not) , I think it is possible that they could survive(although not w/o taking serious damage as a result) an entropic blast from the Aegis .

Originally posted by zopzop
Woah, wtf?

Would that work on higher level abstracts like Death (Marvel) or Death (Endless)?

Erasing Black Flash, though, is still quite something...

Originally posted by zopzop
Woah, wtf?

Would that work on higher level abstracts like Death (Marvel) or Death (Endless)?

Don't see why not?

We already know it would be effective against Eternity (Time) and Infinity (Space), so why not Mistress Death?

On the DC side, we already know Death of the Endless is the last thing to exist at the end of the universe. She locks up and then (presumably) ceases to exist, as no life means no death. However, for Entropy to kill Death of the Endless, as she is a truly abstract concept, it would have to destroy the DC omniverse.

^^In an alternate universe , Thanos did erase Ms Death with the UN . Dunno if that applies to 616 Death or not .

gets to 10

First of all that construct no matter how powerful isn't getting past Rune King Thor. He'd magically pull it off of John Henry, even if he had to rip him limb from limb. He pulled Loki's head off with more ease than Superman would pluck an apple from a tree, and Loki was super amped to Sky Father levels. RK Thor would pluck JH Iron's limbs off without killing him, and would render the armor inert. Because let's face it, the armor would have no power over his metaphysical form, and lol at where RK Thor was placed. He is in fact 10. Not 2.