Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't think so . Fury was pretty much a walking (non-)talking plot device , and adapted according to the situation presented before it .
That's basically what Chimera was. He was a walking plot device and could adapt to pretty much anything, IIRC. A fight with him and Fury could be a stalemate.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerJust saying that Fury never adapted the specific type ability you mentioned (ie. soul manipulation), so it's sketchy to assume it: a.) is capable of doing so at all, and b.) would do so here.
I don't think so . Fury was pretty much a walking (non-)talking plot device , and adapted according to the situation presented before it .
That line of thinking borders on a no-limits fallacy, and is one of the reasons why h1's version of H/P Doomsday irritates the hell out of most people.
Originally posted by Galan007
Just saying that Fury never adapted the specific type ability you mentioned (ie. soul manipulation), so it's sketchy to assume it: a.) is capable of doing so at all, and b.) would do so here.That line of thinking borders on a no-limits fallacy, and is one of the reasons why h1's version of H/P Doomsday irritates the hell out of most people.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI am not saying it is beyond Fury's ability to manipulate souls, I am simply saying that we have absolutely NO way of knowing... What we know: we know that within 2 years Fury became more powerful than every meta-being on earth 238, and killed all of them -- we know it was able to endure nullification -- we know it evolved the ability to absorb other tech and teleport -- we know it evolved beyond MJJ's ability to warp -- we know that it had a finite energy source(it was nearly powerless after it's battle with MJJ.)
Barring a weakened state , Fury at his average levels was capable of adapting to anything . IIRC , he developed a dimensional-teleporter as a result of his adapting powers .
While I agree that there is no evidence that he could develop such an ability , its not a stretch to assume that it would be a likely possibility in a battleboard fight imo .
Also unlike Doomsday , who was clearly mentioned as being incapable of evolving past entropy , the precise limits to Fury's adapting powers were never shown iirc .
Aside from the above, anything else stated regarding Fury's evolutionary ability is speculation. If someone were to say: "No, Fury can NOT evolve the ability to manipulate souls!" How could you really form an argument to the contrary? Not saying I disagree with you, but that line of logic does border on a no-limits fallacy.
Originally posted by Galan007
I am not saying it is beyond Fury's ability to manipulate souls, I am simply saying that we have absolutely NO way of knowing... What we know: we know Fury became more powerful than every meta-being on earth 238, and killed all of them, within 2 years -- we know it was able to endure nullification -- we know it evolved the ability to absorb other tech and teleport -- we know it evolved beyond MJJ's ability to warp -- we know that it had a finite energy source(it was nearly powerless after it's battle with MJJ.)Aside from the above, anything else stated regarding Fury's evolutionary ability is speculation. If someone were to say: "No, Fury can NOT evolve the ability to manipulate souls!" How could you really form an argument to the contrary? Not saying I disagree with you, but that line of logic does border on a no-limits fallacy.
As far as an NLF goes , Fury's adaption powers appeared to be pretty NLFy to me . IMO , if there is a possibility that its opponent can be beaten , then the Fury(as long as its not out of gas) could most likely adapt accordingly to execute the perfect strategy to beat that opponent .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Its actually only a possibility that I postulated . You did ask what could the Fury do the Aegis , and I gave you a scenario based on how the Aegis was decommisioned(by freeing Johns soul from it) .As far as an NLF goes , Fury's adaption powers appeared to be pretty NLFy to me . IMO , if there is a possibility that its opponent can be beaten , then the Fury(as long as its not out of gas) could most likely adapt accordingly to execute the perfect strategy to beat that opponent .
Wasn't the last Fury stopped by the X-Men?