How do you guys view the scene between the LT and Warlock..

1. Some people believe that the LT was only talking about using his own power.. when talking about being able to beat Warlock with the IG. Some cite the fact that since the LT had doubts about whether he could take it by froce.. then he couldn't be coming with the TOAA power or else he would have no doubts...

2. Other say that he was coming not with just his own power.. but with the power of TOAA. People cite hm saying he comes as a representative of a power beyond the IG's.

Which side are you guys on.. Did the LT come with the backing and power of the TOAA behind him... or was he coming with just his power?

He had the power to stop IG Warlock because he is Judge over that reality. TOAA made LT to Judge over anybody and anything in the reality.

Pretty much.

It's always been my opinion LT was moreso worried about the collateral damage that would be caused to the reality if he had to take the IG by force than whether he actually had the power to do it (particularly since he had the power to stop the gems from being able to work in unison).

So you guys are saying the LT operates under his own power (one that is constant that was granted by the TOAA) or it can vary depending upon what the TOAA gives him? I'm guess I'm just curious if people believe the LT has power on his own and does things on his own or always comes with the backing of the LT. The HOTI situation seems to point to him not always coming with the backing of TOAA

I don't see any reason to believe LT's power is variable.

It's always been about as consistent as it gets in comics, and that's the way I see him.

LT>IG

Simple

This isn't really a battle........

So the LT is ALWAYS backed by the full judgment (power) of the TOAA?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
This isn't really a battle........

you sir are a genius...

Originally posted by golem370
He had the power to stop IG Warlock because he is Judge over that reality. TOAA made LT to Judge over anybody and anything in the reality.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you sir are a genius...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So the LT is ALWAYS backed by the full judgment (power) of the TOAA?

Representing the power of God does not make you equal to God.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So the LT is ALWAYS backed by the full judgment (power) of the TOAA?

No, he doesn't have the full power of TOAA. Just a lot.

In the original arc , based on Eternity's commentary it could be interpreted that it was TOAA's power which shut down the gauntlet .

Then in that batsh1t crazy Illuminati story , another incarnation of TOAA(Bendis) undid the previous TOAA's(Starlin's) decree , and also disrespected Starlin with Reed's emphatic "Say's who ?" line .

However , I wouldn't be surprised if current opinion at Marvel editorial is that LT>IG indisputably(irrespective of his status as TOAA's representative) .

Originally posted by Galan007
No way. If that were the case, MC2 Reed wouldn't have been able to get the better of him with tech he built in a few years, Thanos /w/ THOTI wouldn't have been able to beat him, he would have been able to do more to Korvac than make a star go nova and trap him in that universe, etc.

Representing the power of God does not make you equal to God.

I agree.. but some seem to feel like his power is always static... Yet his ultimate power move was to make the sun go supernova against Korvac.... That is hardly an impressive showing. To the question friend...

Did the LT (against warlock) come with more power than usual with his line of I represent a power greater than yours.. or was he just referring to him being the judge of marvel as decreed by TOAA?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
In the original arc , based on Eternity's commentary it could be interpreted that it was TOAA's power which shut down the gauntlet .

Then in that batsh1t crazy Illuminati story , another incarnation of TOAA(Bendis) undid the previous TOAA's(Starlin's) decree , and also disrespected Starlin with Reed's emphatic "Say's who ?" line .

However , I wouldn't be surprised if current opinion at Marvel editorial is that LT>IG indisputably(irrespective of his status as TOAA's representative) .

Saying "I represent a higher power" does not mean he's amped by said higher power in that situation. Don't know why people have read it as such.

/shrug

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Did the LT (against warlock) come with more power than usual with his line of I represent a power greater than yours.. or was he just referring to him being the judge of marvel as decreed by TOAA?

rep·re·sent/ˌrepriˈzent/
1. Be entitled or appointed to act or speak for (someone), esp. in an official capacity.

The representative for NASA does not shoot rockets out of his feet, he merely speaks on the company's behalf. Same applies here with LT/TOAA, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
LT was not empowered moreso by God when he sized up the IG. Representing TOAA does not mean he had the power of TOAA-- I've never understood why people felt this way.

Don't copy me. I wrote that 2 seconds before you sneer

The problem with the Tribunal is that every appearance he makes is considered canon. On that fact alone we will see a lot of variance in protrayals. It's nothing more than another writers take versus varying power levels. The Living Tribunal is always at the same power level. He's not the Spectre.

Originally posted by Cogito
Don't copy me. I wrote that 2 seconds before you sneer

I'm on to you... uhuh