Arrow

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
It was a combination of that and his staged death after being apprehended. I've just chalked up people believing Roy was the Arrow as comic book stupidity.

Also Thea has been rather tolerable this season, at least in comparison to Laurel and Felicity.

Ah, okay, thanks.

I stopped paying attention to Laurel a long time ago. Felicity's been alright IMO. A huge improvement over the whiny mess we got for most of the previous season. And she has an admittedly cool code-name now.

And this episode just confirmed how ridiculous and PIS'y Oliver stomping Malcolm was. Oliver should not be having trouble with a military/special forces trained mook if he can stomp League of Assassins trained dudes. Meh.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Thinking about it though, the son arrangement is not a very smart plan, even for the mother's side of the arrangement, at least not in the long run. Unless she was raising a complete idiot, at some point the kid was going to reach a stage where he's going to want to know more about who and where his father is, and then the strange man, with seemingly no other ties to his mother, yet who came to visit and spend time with him since he was a little kid, is going to be an obvious suspect.

Yeah, it's called PIS.
Considering the overwhelming suspect for the identity of who is in that grave is now William, I'm thinking they didn't care how they dealt with this plot-line, as long as it introduced drama and tension.

Been enjoying these flashbacks. It is like...I just don't know if Oliver will even make it out of these flashback situations alive. The suspense is killing me.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ah, okay, thanks.

I stopped paying attention to Laurel a long time ago. Felicity's been alright IMO. A huge improvement over the whiny mess we got for most of the previous season.

Say what you people will about Laurel, but to me Felicity will always the worst, even if she goes back to being with Ollie again later. 👇 I wish now she hadn't of been able to walk out of the wheelchair when she did. They couldn't even make that a somewhat happy moment, go figure.

Originally posted by Surtur
Been enjoying these flashbacks. It is like...I just don't know if Oliver will even make it out of these flashback situations alive. The suspense is killing me.

Oh, and I like how Darhk didn't seem at all concerned when Vixen snatched his power source. lol CIS, I suppose. And Malcolm's not even a good liar anymore...

Yeah, Felicity has been consistently less likable than Laurel to me this season. This episode does make me wonder what is going to happen next, considering

Spoiler:
Darhk has seemingly been defeated and the source of his power destroyed. I wonder if Reiter and the flashbacks are finally going to start tying into things. We know that Andy also met Reiter in the past, courtesy of the one flashback.

And damnit, I want to know what Constantine is doing in hell. 😠

Pretty weak episode.

> Boss take down wasn't very climactic.

> Looks like Damien is a ***** at H2H, when this shouldn't be the case.

> I loved how they "just knew" Vixen. Was there some crossover show I'm not aware about?

> Felicity is a *****

> Samantha is a *****

Pleasant surprise, Laurel WASN'T a *****. Amazing.

Originally posted by Placidity
Pretty weak episode.

> Boss take down wasn't very climactic.

> Looks like Damien is a ***** at H2H, when this shouldn't be the case.

> I loved how they "just knew" Vixen. Was there some crossover show I'm not aware about?

> Felicity is a *****

> Samantha is a *****

Pleasant surprise, Laurel WASN'T a *****. Amazing.

Vixen has animated stuff, and Ollie was in an episode, hence his comment about an "animated encounter".

lol @ it being another "let's shit all over Oliver" episode. They really seem to enjoy those.

I don't know why Dark should be good at h2h. I mean, he did lose his powers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't know why Dark should be good at h2h. I mean, he did lose his powers.

Well, at one stage he was a fellow "Heir to the Demon" and rival of Ra's, when they were both still in the League of Shadows. So one would think that Darhk would last more than a handful of blows before getting his ass KO'd. But I suppose one could argue that Damien has gotten so used to relying on his powers that his other skills might have deteriorated.

That was kinda my impression as well.

Oddly enough, I didn't know about the Vixen animated series till I saw an ad of it in between the last Arrow episode. May consider checking it out.

So this is another episode where Laurel was not the worst character. They are really going all out to make Felicity as unlikable as possible this season and I don't know why. Also I think Ollie and Ray should compare notes for getting sandbagged at some point.

The conclusion with Darhk was kind of lame but Vixen showing up was pretty cool

I loved how she got her legs back just so she could walk out on him. Stone cold.

The thing with Darhk is actually very oddly timed. 8 episodes still to go, yet

Spoiler:
Darhk has seemingly been neutralized, or at least heavily weakened as a threat. And now we know both Felicity and William are safe, so who is in the grave, and if Darhk has been weakened/captured, who is responsible?

And Felicity walking out on him right after the chip kicks in was a serious dick move. I almost hoped the thing would malfunction when she was halfway to the door.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Still think that after today/this week's episode?... For once IMO, Oliver did the right thing by trying to keep his son a secret from as many as possible (he actually didn't tell anyone specifically, the ones who knew were just those that found out through evidence), and even after Samantha told Felicity that she made Ollie make that ultimatum/decision to try and keep William safe, she still goes full b*tch mode and seems to leave him by the end here. This Ollie's far from perfect, but wow. Phuck her.

Say what you people will about Laurel, but to me Felicity will always the worst, even if she goes back to being with Ollie again later. 👇 I wish now she hadn't of been able to walk out of the wheelchair when she did. They couldn't even make that a somewhat happy moment, go figure.

Oh yeah. Were this season 3 Felicity, she'd have stayed with him, probably humped the next hot guy she came across, whined about Oliver 24/7 to anyone who would pay attention and acted incredibly emo, as opposed to only walking out on him. She pulled a dick move when she broke up with Oliver even after William's mum explained everything, but meh, I can kinda see why.
The whole walking out bit was stupid.

And I don't dislike Laurel, and wasn't my intention to compare her and Felicity. I just don't pay proper attention to her developments anymore because I found her character very boring after season 2. Only really remember her becoming Black Canary and training with Wildcat. srug

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The thing with Darhk is actually very oddly timed. 8 episodes still to go, yet

Spoiler:
Darhk has seemingly been neutralized, or at least heavily weakened as a threat. And now we know both Felicity and William are safe, so who is in the grave, and if Darhk has been weakened/captured, who is responsible?

Unless the other players involved with HIVE, as well as Darhk's "wife", start playing a bigger part now.

And Felicity walking out on him right after the chip kicks in was a serious dick move. I almost hoped the thing would malfunction when she was halfway to the door.

Could it be Malcolm who is the one Oliver has to kill?

But yeah, highly doubt Darhk's out of the picture. He scares Constantine. HIVE shouldn't have much trouble breaking him out, and despite being rusty, he's still a former League of Assassins member. Whatever Reiter's searching for is bound to tie in eventually, and it's unlikely that Darhk has nothing to do with that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Could it be Malcolm who is the one Oliver has to kill?

But yeah, highly doubt Darhk's out of the picture. He scares Constantine. HIVE shouldn't have much trouble breaking him out, and despite being rusty, he's still a former League of Assassins member. Whatever Reiter's searching for is bound to tie in eventually, and it's unlikely that Darhk has nothing to do with that.

We can only hope. I honestly wanted Thea to kick his crippled ass when he had the nerve to show up at her place after they got William back.

I really hope Darhk has more to him. They've been building him up since season 3, and throughout this one, so it would be a massive copout if that's all she wrote. As you said, he even scares Constantine, and people who watched John's solo show know that he doesn't even let high level Angels and Demons intimidate/scare him, and often gets the better of them. And yeah, Reiter and the island has to tie in somehow. Far too many connections there to be coincidence. And it would make sense that Darhk would have some kind of tie/knowledge about Reiter and the island. As he said on the one episode of Legends of Tomorrow, he makes it a point to know everyone who happens to be a major player.

I'm hoping it's Felicity in the grave and Oliver was hallucinating her in the car

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
We can only hope. I honestly wanted Thea to kick his crippled ass when he had the nerve to show up at her place after they got William back.

I really hope Darhk has more to him. They've been building him up since season 3, and throughout this one, so it would be a massive copout if that's all she wrote. As you said, he even scares Constantine, and people who watched John's solo show know that he doesn't even let high level Angels and Demons intimidate/scare him, and often gets the better of them. And yeah, Reiter and the island has to tie in somehow. Far too many connections there to be coincidence. And it would make sense that Darhk would have some kind of tie/knowledge about Reiter and the island. As he said on the one episode of Legends of Tomorrow, he makes it a point to know everyone who happens to be a major player.

They cut Malcolm a lot of slack. I'm surprised Oliver didn't go after Malcolm after finding out what he did.

Yep. 👆
And even though Darhk lost his totem (or one of his totems?), he still manipulated Oliver into bowing out of the mayoral campaign, so his plan for Star City is still in motion.

Assuming Oliver doesn't just go "I dropped out cuz Damien Darhk kidnapped and threatened my family, but by working with the Green Arrow they were retrieved and I'm back in the race. BTW Darhk ordered me to support my opponent so maaaybe don't vote for her."

I mean, other than Oliver being stupid.

Never thought I'd say this, but f*ck you Felicity. I really hope when you decide you are being stupid Oliver is the one who walks away from you.