Snake and Cap suffer from the same flawed logic. They are clearly beyond peak human, but no limits to their abilities are ever firmly established, so writers can go as high or low as they want with them to push the story or benefit the character.
Cap's supposedly "peak" human, yet he outruns bullets, sees faster than them, punches out Hulk, holds up hundreds of tons by bracing his shield, etc...
Snake is the same way. He's superhuman, but supposedly not by much. But then he does stuff like fighting evenly with Grey Fox/Jaeger, even though he can dent metal several feet with human bodies, hold up several hundred tons with one arm, dodge/block bullets, and kick a chunk of concrete the size of an engine block like a soccer ball.
If anything I say their jobber auras cancel each other out, and they fight normally.
Originally posted by ares834Snake got into a fist fight with Gray Fox because
Snake gets in fist fights with guys that can lift hundreds of tons and are able to block bullets with swords/knives.... And wins.Not sure how one can deny that Snake has superhuman attributes.
-He was holding back on Snake
-His suit was malfunctioning
If Fox wanted to kill Snake he could of with ease.
People can deny that Snake has superhuman attributes because a guy who can't break a pair of hand cuffs and gets held up and beaten down by 3 soldiers isn't superhuman
Snake has done nothing to suggest he'd last more than 10 seconds against Cap.
Originally posted by KingD19Alot of this stuff, the bullet blocking, kicking the chunk of concrete, is from Twin Snakes, which is non canon
Snake and Cap suffer from the same flawed logic. They are clearly beyond peak human, but no limits to their abilities are ever firmly established, so writers can go as high or low as they want with them to push the story or benefit the character.Cap's supposedly "peak" human, yet he outruns bullets, sees faster than them, punches out Hulk, holds up hundreds of tons by bracing his shield, etc...
Snake is the same way. He's superhuman, but supposedly not by much. But then he does stuff like fighting evenly with Grey Fox/Jaeger, even though he can dent metal several feet with human bodies, hold up several hundred tons with one arm, dodge/block bullets, and kick a chunk of concrete the size of an engine block like a soccer ball.
If anything I say their jobber auras cancel each other out, and they fight normally.
Although I know Gray Fox was able to deflect bullets when he was Null.
Originally posted by KingD19No it wasnt
That was in MGS1 when it came out on PS1.The concrete chunk feat is when it was Snake, Ocelot, and Fox all in that room. He also blocked bullets back in MGS1.
And yes, As Null/Jaeger he was effortlessly blocking bullets without a High Frequency Blade.
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No where hear did he kick any concrete, he went beserk then ran off
I dont recall him every blocking bullets although it doesnt matter since we know he could, but the concrete feat didnt happen
Originally posted by Casper WhiteyI like how people thumbs up something, even though there was already a clear explanation given ON THE SAME PAGE, that they just happened to miss.
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Superhumans can break hand cuffs
Superhumans don't get held up at gun point by three mooks then get beaten and captured
Originally posted by FinalAnswerI sure love speaking facts, apparently alot of people on this site hate them though
You sure enjoy lowballing, don't you?And Snake did break those cuffs.
It's only low balling if there are high feats to counteract it, their aren't
Snake broke those hand cuffs after they got damaged by stray gunfire, and even after they were damaged it still took him several minutes to break them
Superhuman my ass, anyone who thinks Snake is even peak human is either an idiot or a fanboy.
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
I sure love speaking facts, apparently alot of people on this site hate them thoughIt's only low balling if there are high feats to counteract it, their aren't
Snake broke those hand cuffs after they got damaged by stray gunfire, and even after they were damaged it still took him several minutes to break them
Superhuman my ass, anyone who thinks Snake is even peak human is either an idiot or a fanboy.
High feats like physically restraining Vamp, dodging railgun shots in the middle of a snow storm, beating up a man who punches through armor RPGs can't dent, surviving a beating from said man? Holding up a metal gear? Walking off being shot by Sniper Wolf?
Jesus, bitchass Raiden was blocking machine gun fire with his sword in 2, try harder.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerPhysically restraining Vamp, a guy who has no strength feats. Seriously I challenge anyone to find a single strength feat for Vamp
High feats like physically restraining Vamp, dodging railgun shots in the middle of a snow storm, beating up a man who punches through armor RPGs can't dent, surviving a beating from said man? Holding up a metal gear? Walking off being shot by Sniper Wolf?Jesus, bitchass Raiden was blocking machine gun fire with his sword in 2, try harder.
Dodging a rail gun shot in the middle of a snow storm, the same rail gun shot that took several seconds to hit the wall behind Snake
Beating up a man who punches through armor RPG'S can't dent?
Oh lordie lordie lord...Big Boss and Snake aren;t the same character
Big Boss got his ass kicked by Volgin the first time they fought
Volgin doesn't punch through steel because of his strength, he's able to punch through steel and concrete because he ignites the bullets in his hand to create a gun powder effect. And YES I have proof of this
I already explained why Snake survived against Gray Fox, I'm not going to explain it again
Walking off being shot by Sniper Wolf? Seriously? By that logic Sniper Wolf would be bullet proof to since she survives you shooting her in the head several times with sniper rifle
Same with Raiden blocking machine gun bullets. I think you're confusing gameplay with what characters are canonically possible of. In MGS2 Raiden was held up at gun point by several guards and Olga in her Cyborg Ninja armor had to save him.
I don't think you're qualified to speak here since you seem to not know much about this series. You should leave it to the experts, thanks...