Solid Snake vs. Captain America

Yes. Play the game, it's in the description of the weapon once you get it near the end. And it tells you to hold R1(or R2) to block bullets.

Once he's a cyborg, blocking them is all him, but before hand it was the sword.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yes. Play the game, it's in the description of the weapon once you get it near the end. And it tells you to hold R1(or R2) to block bullets.

Once he's a cyborg, blocking them is all him, but before hand it was the sword.

Yeah. I remember I tried to use a gameshark/code junkie to get the sword for Raiden's entire story, but I only got a mirror, which basically meant it was in my inventory and I could equip it, but it didn't work like it really was supposed to because the data was hardwired to the end of the game when you got it for real.

I felt so dumb when I pulled it out and tried to block bullets and got shot in the face.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yes. Play the game, it's in the description of the weapon once you get it near the end. And it tells you to hold R1(or R2) to block bullets.

Once he's a cyborg, blocking them is all him, but before hand it was the sword.

watch?v=eQzQu9dI5IE

At 2:34 the description opens up and nothing is said about the sword doing the work

Or even better

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Blade_weapons#High-frequency_blade

It doesnt matter anyway since its a gameplay mechanic and not canon to the story.

Its still a weapon the character uses and its one of its abilities.

So what? If you go through the game without using the sword it never happens thus is non canon.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
So what? If you go through the game without using the sword it never happens thus is non canon.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I hope you're not serious.

I have bad news; you're incorrect.

"If you go through the game without using an item it's non canon"

What? The item is there to be used and functions exactly as the game designers intended, just because a player might choose not to use it doesn't make it void. The item allows Raiden to block bullets, ergo, with it, Raiden can block bullets.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Physically restraining Vamp, a guy who has no strength feats. Seriously I challenge anyone to find a single strength feat for Vamp

Dodging a rail gun shot in the middle of a snow storm, the same rail gun shot that took several seconds to hit the wall behind Snake

Beating up a man who punches through armor RPG'S can't dent?
Oh lordie lordie lord...Big Boss and Snake aren;t the same character
Big Boss got his ass kicked by Volgin the first time they fought
Volgin doesn't punch through steel because of his strength, he's able to punch through steel and concrete because he ignites the bullets in his hand to create a gun powder effect. And YES I have proof of this

I already explained why Snake survived against Gray Fox, I'm not going to explain it again

Walking off being shot by Sniper Wolf? Seriously? By that logic Sniper Wolf would be bullet proof to since she survives you shooting her in the head several times with sniper rifle

Same with Raiden blocking machine gun bullets. I think you're confusing gameplay with what characters are canonically possible of. In MGS2 Raiden was held up at gun point by several guards and Olga in her Cyborg Ninja armor had to save him.

I don't think you're qualified to speak here since you seem to not know much about this series. You should leave it to the experts, thanks...

Vamp physically contended with Cyborg Raiden. Do you want me to list his feats?

Do you know what a railgun is? By definition, it can't be that slow. And no, it didn't take that long.

No they aren't. Solid Snake did, however, beat Big Boss in single combat. 🙂

Cool. So Big Boss physically beat up a man who has 10 million volts of electricity coursing through his body and can survive having RPGs lobbed at his head. 🙂

You made baseless claims is what you did.

Him getting shot by Sniper Wolf is a scripted event in MGS1.

It's an ability Raiden can do with his sword. It's as canon as the rest of the series. Deal with it.

You should quit and save yourself some dignity boyo.

Solid Snake has infinite ammo. He wins.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Vamp physically contended with Cyborg Raiden. Do you want me to list his feats?

YouTube video

And he's flipping Metal Gear Ray's in Revengeance, but I'm not sure if that's considered cannon to MGS.

Yeah it looks more like gameplay to me....... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have bad news; you're incorrect.

"If you go through the game without using an item it's non canon"

What? The item is there to be used and functions exactly as the game designers intended, just because a player might choose not to use it doesn't make it void. The item allows Raiden to block bullets, ergo, with it, Raiden can block bullets.

If we went by your logic than Big Boss would be a class 100 character because he held up Zeke's leg in Peace Walker, even though in the same game he struggled to lift a shutter and needed to escape through a vent to get out of prison in Portable Ops

So no, Raiden blocking bullets is non canon and isn't a part of the story of his capabilities, period...

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Vamp physically contended with Cyborg Raiden. Do you want me to list his feats?

Do you know what a railgun is? By definition, it can't be that slow. And no, it didn't take that long.

No they aren't. Solid Snake did, however, beat Big Boss in single combat. 🙂

Cool. So Big Boss physically beat up a man who has 10 million volts of electricity coursing through his body and can survive having RPGs lobbed at his head. 🙂

You made baseless claims is what you did.

Him getting shot by Sniper Wolf is a scripted event in MGS1.

It's an ability Raiden can do with his sword. It's as canon as the rest of the series. Deal with it.

You should quit and save yourself some dignity boyo.

Vamp contended with Raiden because his regeneration allowed him to shrug off all of his attacks, When his regeneratio was gone guess what? Raiden killed him. At no point in any of those fights did Vamp physically overpower or match Raiden in strength. He mainly dodged his attacks.

Plus Raiden's strength was highly inconsistent. At one point he was holding back Outer Haven. Too bad it's offset by all the other showings he had. At one point 4 Geckos were able to physically restrain him. Vamp was able to stab him with regular knives. Vamp even pinned Raiden's arm to his back when they dueled on top of Rex.

So you're wrong, Vamp still has ZERO strength feats, he was arguably faster than Raiden, could withstand more punishment, never matched him or anywhere close in strength

Try again

Yes, I know what a REAL LIFE Rail Gun is, the large one's the Navy uses can reach speeds up to Mach 20

Problem is the one Snake dodged was a portable rail gun that couldn't generate enough Joules to fire at that rate

Watch any video with Crying Wolf and count exactly from when the gun fires to when it hits the wall, it takes at minimum 4 seconds to traverse several hundred feat hence 1/4 the speed of a handgun bullet. Deal with it

Solid Snake beat Big Boss by using a make shift flame thrower because he couldn't beat him in hand to hand.

Big Boss lost to Volgin in hand to hand, a guy who couldn't put a dent in concrete with his own strenght, had no fighting skill or any peak human stats. He beat him the next time when he had access to all of his weapons. Volgin never canonically withstood an RPG either

Come on son, you're making this too easy

No, I spoke facts and nothing but facts
Gray Fox' suit was malfunctioning, watch the fist fight with Ocelot when he lobs his hand off, he goes beserk and runs away

When they actually fight Gray Fox toys with him, he hides with his camo telling Snake to fight him, then he yells at Snake to hit him harder and to keep hitting him, yelling "hurt me more" he wasn't going all out against him, again, deal with it.

Him shooting Sniper Wolf is also a scripted event, so I guess Wolf and Snake must both bullet proof? Even though Sniper Wolf died and Snake got held up at g un point by 3 guards?

Raiden blocking swords doesn't happen canonically. By your logic Big Boss is a class 100 character because he held up Zeke's leg in Peace Walker. Sorry doesn't work like that

It's painfully obvious that the only knowledge of the series you have is by watching YOutube videios. Unlike you I've played the games and am well versed in the lore and know fully what these characters are capable of

You know virtually nothing about this series, you confused Big Boss and Solid Snake and weren't aware of the fact that Snake beat him with a flame thrower which is why his body was incinerated in the first place and they needed to use Solidus' body to repair him.

My advice would be to play the games and educate yourself, and to not challenge people who are clearly superior to you in both knowledge and the use of logic.

Originally posted by cdtm
YouTube video

And he's flipping Metal Gear Ray's in Revengeance, but I'm not sure if that's considered cannon to MGS.

Before MGS4 the Patriots removed part of Raiden's head and turned him into the Cyborg he was in MGS4. In Revengance he's ALL Cybernetic including the part of his severed head.

The lack of knowledge of this series on this forum is mind boggling. I wish you people wouldn't post on something your clearly not educated on.

It's not even out yet. 🙄

And it's not by Hideo Kojima = don't care about it.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's not even out yet. 🙄

And the canon question was because of a developer other then Hideo Kojima being involved...

But thanks for clearing its official status.