Originally posted by Darth MartinDialogue, intimidation, and look go to Neeson, as does acting. I couldn't really take Bane seriously. His mask and the muffled, hard-to-understand accent weren't that great of a portrayal. He came off feeling like a cheap saturday morning cartoon villain to me.
Superior look, dialogue, action, and much more intimidating.*kanyeshrug*
Neeson, on the other hand, looked and sounded perfect. He was comic Ra's personified. As far as intimidation, I'd rather have Bane after me than Ra's. Bane can be solved with a bullet, as Catwoman solved. Ra's seemed like the smartest villain in the series, which makes him more of a threat in my eyes. He gave off a sophisticated, 1-step-ahead feeling that it didn't feel like Bats could stop. He also didn't mind guns.
Action was better with Bane, but he's Bane. He'd better give Batman a few good fight scenes. Ra's ending sequence with Gotham tearing itself apart while Bats tried to stop him on the train outdid Batmans ending fight with Bane where Bane just gets blasted away by Catwoman. Banes first fight tied with it for me though, even though Batman was portrayed kind of idiotically. I liked Ra's overall plan a lot more than his daughter's too (which yes, Bane cant be blamed for, but he did take part).
Overall, Begins had a better story and a better villain. It almost comes close to TDK in that respect. Rises is significantly below both because of the villains, and the semi-retarded plot. It wins on action, but thats about it. TDK outdid it there too.
Originally posted by ares834
Equal to Batman, sure. But Superman is by far the most iconic and recognized superhero in the world.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Batman has had a lot more bandwagon fans since TDK. It's astounding how little people knew about him before Nolan. I do think he's an amazing hero, but he wasn't as recognizable before his movies as Superman or Spiderman were before theirs. I still remember the insane amount of hype before the first Spiderman came out (which went on to gross 821,708,551 and hold the record for highest grossing super hero movie for 5 years until that was taken by SM3, which rode the hype after SM2 and didn't deserve it), whereas Batman Begins was more of a sleeper hit (374,218,673, which is less than every individual Avenger characters movie with the exception of Hulk, who made 263,427,551) that didn't get its due until TDK started stirring hype with the Joker, despite being just as good (IMO, anyway).Superman is [B]the
super hero. He's always been the top super hero icon in general, nevermind DC. Spiderman has always been close, even before his movies because of how much people could identify with the character (which is something most DC heroes lack). He's a fan favorite, had a big fan following before his movies, and has always been Marvels poster boy. As great as Batman is, he doesn't have the same iconic status as Supes or Spiderman. He just happened to be lucky enough to get an amazing director that made him huge. [/B]
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Originally posted by abhilegend
This is true. I've seen [b]tribal people in the jungles of India who have basically zero knowledge about outside world recognize S-symbol.😱 [/B]
Yeah, well Superman is currently behind Spider Man and Iron Man, at least. No one would've predicted the latter would have this kind of standing a few years ago, but it's true.
Originally posted by roughrider
Yeah, well Superman is currently behind Spider Man and Iron Man, at least. No one would've predicted the latter would have this kind of standing a few years ago, but it's true.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to marvel not dc.
Wrong. DC/WB in recent years gave us the hugely popular JL and JLU animations, 10 years of live action Smallville, the biggest solo superhero franchise ever with Nolan's Batman and now the hugely popular live action Arrow series as well as the box office smash Man of Steel movie franchise.
So you can stop your lies now fanboy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This kind of popularity comes and goes. Superhero genre is hot right now. Soon people will get fed up and it would get back to the classic legends.
I've heard that for years that people will get fed up of the superhero genre. But it's not even slowing down.
Even if it did I guarantee Iron Man, The Avengers and Wolverine will never be forgotten. They are legends now.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I've heard that for years that people will get fed up of the superhero genre. But it's not even slowing down.Even if it did I guarantee Iron Man, The Avengers and Wolverine will never be forgotten. They are legends now.