Gods vs Galactus

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
light is certainly what makes Galactus look like he's being shot by a blast while gritting his teeth.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/Fantastic_4_602_020.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-09.jpg

His reaction is almost the exact same as when he got hit by the merged Celestials.

Sue put her hand over above her eyes... because it was said to be light. We're supposed to believe Mr "I made a sun explode and then sat in it" is overwhelmed by light?
Then there's the fact that there was no such "light" made when they reappeared after Frank BFR'ed them...

Again, the Celestials tried to reason with Galactus first before attacking him. When he refused to back down, that's when they initiated their first attack.

I know it looks like Galactus is in pain when the Celestials arrived on the scene, but he's just reacting to the light. The artist (Barry Kitson) just made the scene a little too dramatic.

Originally posted by Doon
Umm.. it wasn't HIS statement that I was referring to. 😕

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yourself then?

I think you already know. Whatever makes you feel better though. 😆

Originally posted by Doon
Again, the Celestials tried to reason with Galactus first before attacking him. When he refused to back down, that's when they initiated their first attack.

I know it looks like Galactus is in pain when the Celestials arrived on the scene, but he's just reacting to the light. The artist (Barry Kitson) just made the scene a little too dramatic.

So you accept it looks like Galactus was in pain? Boy since that's all we have to go off of, then I must surely be wrong. It was light after all!

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Frank's flashy entrance was actually stated to be "light" though. And the reaction to it was Sue lazily putting her hand over her eye while staring directly into it. The Celestials didn't give a shit.

And he was right beside it...

Nope , if he was right beside it , Galactus would have appeared in his hand , not in space . Sue sealed the room immediately prior to Reed activating the device .

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Sure looks like gritting his teeth on my end. Either way, his hands are also up as well.

Because he wasn't being shot by a being that could one shot him... maybe?
Ignore the part about his reaction being pretty much the same though.

There's also the part where you're ignoring the second set that show a Celestial shoot a blast, a big "explosion" on the screen, and Galactus wrestling the shit out of them without any damage.

Already explained this .

That blast probably happened off-panel then because the Celestial was depicted as merely holding up a glowing hand .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am talking about the scene from #604 , not #603 . His light was very clearly shown blasting a Celestial back .

Nope , if he was right beside it , Galactus would have appeared in his hand , not in space . Sue sealed the room immediately prior to Reed activating the device .

The device was in his hand. It doesn't matter where it appeared when Reed immediately felt the effects of it, or it scared the shit out of him. Either way, Reed is not Galactus. Nor is a device that opens up singularities and summons Galactus a flash of light.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Did the light change properties then?
No it... wasn't? They are all looking up. That's it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

The device was in his hand. It doesn't matter where it appeared when Reed immediately felt the effects of it, or it scared the shit out of him. Either way, Reed is not Galactus. Nor is a device that opens up singularities and summons Galactus a flash of light.

Reed is not Galactus , I agree . The point is that the scene of Galactus' entry into the battlefield is supposed to be dramatic illustrated , just like the Celestials' original entrance and Future Frank/Val's entrances .

And neither is a bunch of cosmic beings teleporting into a particular location an offensive attack either .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Despite the fact that his face is almost completely blurred from all that light ?

Already explained this .

That blast probably happened off-panel then because the Celestial was depicted as merely holding up a glowing hand .

You didn't explain it very well, if at all.

Are you of the opinion that a Celestial about to blast really means that he wasn't going to blast at all?
Because this is pretty much the closest you can get to depicting a blast without actually drawing it being fired.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-03.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-04.jpg

Notice the color on the screen being the same color as the Celestials' attack (and light), and actually looking like when they merged.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-08.jpg

While all of Galactus' attacks there were blue.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-07.jpg

So... the Celestial didn't blast Galactus why?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Does it matter ? The light is shown hitting a Celestial in the scan I posted , but for some reason you want to disregard that scene and cling to your other "Galactus tanked a blast from the Celestials' teleportation" scene .

So you want to ignore the part in which there IS a flash of light as Reed is screaming ? His screaming in pain shows that he is only scared ?

Reed is not Galactus , I agree . The point is that the scene of Galactus' entry into the battlefield is supposed to be dramatic illustrated , just like the Celestials' original entrance and Future Frank/Val's entrances .

And neither is a bunch of cosmic beings teleporting into a particular location an offensive attack either .

It's a flash of light from something that opens up a god damned wormhole in space.
His screaming either shows he's in pain or scared. Nothing more, nothing less. The thing opened up right beside (whoops, I mean above him since you like to attack those words) him, and then traveled upwards. We should expect Reed to go "Hey, this thing that I have no idea what it does is doing something a foot away from my face at this precise moment, and I should be totally stoic!"

Dramatic illustrated doesn't answer anything. One involved a wormhole. One involved the characters actually talking about the light. And one involved a character individually more powerful than any of those Celestials appearing in the words of Doon "In pain". Oh and btw, did I mention there was no flash of "light" when they teleported back when Frank BFR'ed them? Because I did... and you ignored it multiple times.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Or they attacked first and then tried to reason with him after he survived.

So you accept it looks like Galactus was in pain? Boy since that's all we have to go off of, then I must surely be wrong. It was light after all!

Looks to be light to me. Rather destructive light, anyway. Especially considering Galactus no-sold multiple Nega Bombs on the previous page. Which only takes away from the obvious: some of those ships being blown apart around Galactus.

Originally posted by ODG

Looks to be light to me. Rather destructive light, anyway. Especially considering Galactus no-sold multiple Nega Bombs on the previous page.

^ I'm not sure I get the whole "dramatic," without being "destructive" part when we even see ships being blown apart right around Galactus... ? But this conversation doesn't look enticing enough for me retrace.

Originally posted by ODG
^ I'm not sure I get the whole "dramatic," without being "destructive" part when we even see ships being blown apart right around Galactus... ? But this conversation doesn't look enticing enough for me retrace.

Oh it isn't, trust me. Quite frankly I wish I just popped in RE 6 instead of talking to possibly Hickman, and the guy who argues about everything just to argue.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Ok I thought you said you were confused whether Galactus killed the Celestial or not.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It isn't though.

You didn't explain it very well, if at all.

Are you of the opinion that a Celestial about to blast really means that he wasn't going to blast at all?
Because this is pretty much the closest you can get to depicting a blast without actually drawing it being fired.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-03.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-04.jpg

Notice the color on the screen being the same color as the Celestials' attack (and light), and actually looking like when they merged.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-08.jpg

While all of Galactus' attacks there were blue.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Celestials/ff603-07.jpg

So... the Celestial didn't blast Galactus why?

I did try my best to explain it sufficiently .

Nope , just that it apparently happened off-panel .
The color of a Celestial's blast is completely irrelevant anyways , because throughout different issues , it ranged from orange to purple to blue :

Already explained why, that too more than once .

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And that's all it is, is light.
It didn't have any effect on the Celestials at all, nor was it shown to be anything more than light.
Nor was it even from the same character.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

It's a flash of light from something that opens up a god damned wormhole in space.
His screaming either shows he's in pain or scared. Nothing more, nothing less. The thing opened up right beside (whoops, I mean above him since you like to attack those words) him, and then traveled upwards. We should expect Reed to go "Hey, this thing that I have no idea what it does is doing something a foot away from my face at this precise moment, and I should be totally stoic!"

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oh and btw, did I mention there was no flash of "light" when they teleported back when Frank BFR'ed them? Because I did... and you ignored it multiple times.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Probably the same reason none of them were threatened by the presence of the leaking radiation from the Gods there as well . Hickman intended them to be observers , not fatalities in his super-awesome battle .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yes it is .

I did try my best to explain it sufficiently .

Nope , just that it apparently happened off-panel .
The color of a Celestial's blast is completely irrelevant anyways , because throughout different issues , it ranged from orange to purple to blue :

Already explained why, that too more than once .

And that's the lesson to take from this; never try.

What are you trying to argue here exactly? Galactus only showed blue attacks throughout the two issues. The blast color matches what the Celestials were shown throughout that issue (and the one before). Therefore it was the Celestials who made the big blast on screen that was fired at Galactus. IE, the Celestial hit Galactus to little effect to where he was ****ing throwing them around like a real man would to a baby.

You explained that more than once? Than why in the same post did you just say this?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Nope , just that it apparently happened off-panel .

I think you're confused.

Edit .

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
are you blind?

And that's the lesson to take from this; never try.

What are you trying to argue here exactly? Galactus only showed blue attacks throughout the two issues. The blast color matches what the Celestials were shown throughout that issue (and the one before). Therefore it was the Celestials who made the big blast on screen that was fired at Galactus. IE, the Celestial hit Galactus to little effect to where he was ****ing throwing them around like a real man would to a baby.

You explained that more than once? Than why in the same post did you just say this?

I agree that with a person like you nobody should never try . It'll simply fly past your head .

That the color of their blasts is irrelevant . That's what .

Irrelevant why I said it . The fact that I said it is enough .

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

I think you're confused.