Originally posted by JuggernautMania
Desparo is trans leveler i dont see the problem here.
What do you consider Trans tier? Adam took it to a team trying to beat him down, and the team wasn't a weak one either. Sentry was even on the team, and Adam was trying to reason with them on top of it. Imagine if he was serious?
Originally posted by Stoic
What do you consider Trans tier? Adam took it to a team trying to beat him down, and the team wasn't a weak one either. Sentry was even on the team, and Adam was trying to reason with them on top of it. Imagine if he was serious?
desparo casualy beats groupd of heralds and clearly dominated the likes of superman.
every character has here and there high moments but desparo is just as validus a consistant herald team wrecker , always was and always portrayed that way.
Originally posted by JuggernautManiathat doesn't explain away Martian Manhunter getting beat down by Zod or getting owned by Stargirl. Meanwhile, Blue Marvel has taken down King Hyperion, flash k.o.ed Sentry, beaten down Ironman, Ms. Marvel, Ares and Wonderman and then he got jumped by Sentry and still pushed him to his breaking point
desparo casualy beats groupd of heralds and clearly dominated the likes of superman.
every character has here and there high moments but desparo is just as validus a consistant herald team wrecker , always was and always portrayed that way.
Originally posted by deathslash
that doesn't explain away Martian Manhunter getting beat down by Zod or getting owned by Stargirl. Meanwhile, Blue Marvel has taken down King Hyperion, flash k.o.ed Sentry, beaten down Ironman, Ms. Marvel, Ares and Wonderman and then he got jumped by Sentry and still pushed him to his breaking point
Originally posted by carver9
He also stomped Antiman, someone that ripped through the Avengers.
Hence I give the majority to J'onn for now...
Originally posted by deathslash
that doesn't explain away Martian Manhunter getting beat down by Zod or getting owned by Stargirl. Meanwhile, Blue Marvel has taken down King Hyperion, flash k.o.ed Sentry, beaten down Ironman, Ms. Marvel, Ares and Wonderman and then he got jumped by Sentry and still pushed him to his breaking point
maybe if you work your reading skills you will understand that i wasnt even defending MM. i was simply stating that saying he cant beat desparo is nothing to be a shamed of because desparo is a legit trans team wrecker.
Originally posted by h1a8
In character Jonn uses intangibility A LOT. Sometimes writer's ignore that power for the sake of plot. I forgot what's that called. I think it's a rule here though.
So why don't we just ignore his character, and tell everyone how you would fight his battles instead? Oh wait I think that's exactly what you did. This still does not answer why he got beat up by Zod. Why didn't he use this against Zod? Oh yeah because it's in his character to fight his battles that way. Let's also not take into account that most characters have some sort of resistance to TP, and while he's sitting there brain beaming him, let's ignore that the other character may still be able to launch a physically crippling attack on him.
Originally posted by Stoic
So why don't we just ignore his character, and tell everyone how you would fight his battles instead? Oh wait I think that's exactly what you did. This still does not answer why he got beat up by Zod. Why didn't he use this against Zod? Oh yeah because it's in his character to fight his battles that way. Let's also not take into account that most characters have some sort of resistance to TP, and while he's sitting there brain beaming him, let's ignore that the other character may still be able to launch a physically crippling attack on him.
Originally posted by Stoic
So why don't we just ignore his character, and tell everyone how you would fight his battles instead? Oh wait I think that's exactly what you did. This still does not answer why he got beat up by Zod. Why didn't he use this against Zod? Oh yeah because it's in his character to fight his battles that way. Let's also not take into account that most characters have some sort of resistance to TP, and while he's sitting there brain beaming him, let's ignore that the other character may still be able to launch a physically crippling attack on him.
Have you read any other mm appearances? First off, the whole zod thing was written by Soule who had superman struggling to lift a ship. One showing doesnt negate all the others before.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Gud points. Almost had me swayed there for a second. Still J'onn for now.
Even though in comics he usually gets beaten down by characters of this weight class? There is CIS, but there comes a time when that becomes useless when a character continues to ride the same bus to West Butt-kick. No one answered why he didn't do this to Zod BTW? Could it have been that Zod was moves to fast, and that such an attack would do more harm than good if employed? Adam clearly has super speed. This isn't even a question anymore.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Have you read any other mm appearances? First off, the whole zod thing was written by Soule who had superman struggling to lift a ship. One showing doesnt negate all the others before.
Why didn't he use his powers on Zod, but automatically uses them on Adam? Why is it a 100% certainty that Adam would be beaten by his attacks? Also for someone that keeps saying that it was a one time thing, you sure seem to have no trouble throwing Atrocitus at us and how well J'onn did against him. However you don't seem to be saying anything about their first encounter. You know the one where Atrocitus nearly kills J'onn, and Apollo?
Originally posted by Stoic
Even though in comics he usually gets beaten down by characters of this weight class? There is CIS, but there comes a time when that becomes useless when a character continues to ride the same bus to West Butt-kick. No one answered why he didn't do this to Zod BTW? Could it have been that Zod was moves to fast, and that such an attack would do more harm than good if employed? Adam clearly has super speed. This isn't even a question anymore.
Mm restrained barry allen in trinity war. Speed wont be a problem.