Martian Manhunter vs Blue Marvel

Originally posted by Golgo13
Mm restrained barry allen in trinity war. Speed wont be a problem.

What about the other things that I brought up? If you're just going to ignore them, this discussion is over, because it would be easier to clap with one hand than to get a solid answer from you.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Mm has used his powers pretty well in the dcnu overall. So the positive outweigh the negative here.

Once again you fail to reply, but seek to strawman the topic of J'onnz less than stellar performances.

Actually atrocitus didnt alnost kill mm. Mm took his blast point blank with hsrfly any effect. Also weakened atro with a mind attack.

You guys have yet to address the tp and intangibility.

On paper : MM SHOULD win. Actually he SHOULD win vs A LOT of people he normally loses to.

In practice : BM stomps a hole in his chest.

Originally posted by zopzop
On paper : MM SHOULD win. Actually he SHOULD win vs A LOT of people he normally loses to.

In practice : BM stomps a hole in his chest.

Who has dcnu mm lost to?

Originally posted by Golgo13
RT

Who has dcnu mm lost to?

Originally posted by zopzop
Zod?

Yet, he took on the jla solo, atrocitus, the legion, stormwatch,and a trans lebel villain despero. His wins far outweigh his loses. And thats the only example? Lol

Originally posted by Golgo13
And thats the only example? Lol

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yet, he took on the jla solo, atrocitus, the legion, stormwatch,and a trans lebel villain despero. His wins far outweigh his loses. And thats the only example? Lol

"took on the jla solo".

Not to be crass, but that's not usable at all. We saw one panel of them fighting. One. It's not cut and dry at all.

He seemed to be doing fine, using all his powers like intangibility and shape shifting.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
maybe if you work your reading skills you will understand that i wasnt even defending MM. i was simply stating that saying he cant beat desparo is nothing to be a shamed of because desparo is a legit trans team wrecker.

His loss to despero shouldnt be used. Mm easnt even at full power.

Originally posted by Golgo13
His loss to despero shouldnt be used. Mm easnt even at full power.

He was weakened in the stsrgirl incident. Hell, mm took a cheap shot from catain marvel as well. All weakened.

Originally posted by Golgo13
He was weakened in the stsrgirl incident. Hell, mm took a cheap shot from catain marvel as well. All weakened.

Originally posted by deathslash
All great examples of him not using his tp or intangibility during a fight IN CHARACTER and getting beaten half to death as aresult.

Not really. He wasnt trying to harm stargirl. If he eanted to, she would be dead.

Originally posted by h1a8
You forget about intangibility. Jonn uses that tactic quite often. Well written, BM shouldn't even touch Jonn.

So, I guess no one should... 🙄

Originally posted by Golgo13
He seemed to be doing fine, using all his powers like intangibility and shape shifting.

It's still only one panel. Until we see the full fight, we won't know how effective he was, or who won/lost.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's still only one panel. Until we see the full fight, we won't know how effective he was, or who won/lost.

Yeah, a lot of things COULD have happened. But, I believe MM mind wiped the entire JLA to protect his identity. I think this was pointed out in Stormwatch. Still a good feat there.,

BTW, here are most of MM's telepathic feats since the reboot. It's quite a bit, so it's SAFE to say, he would use it on Blue Marvel.

Forces his mind on Atrocitus. Throwing him off guard.

Manipulates Guy Gardner

Mind wipes Jack Hawksmoor

Mind Wipes Apollo

Mind Wipes Midnighter and gets past his battle computer

Mind Wipes the Engineer

His battle with Thot, a being who wiped out his entire race and absorbed their psychic abilities.

Reading the Flash who was thinking and moving at lightning speeds