Why is nudity taboo

Started by juggerman9 pages

Originally posted by Mindship
I think I worded it better (apparently why you quoted me): The woman is responsible only for "opening the door to trouble. But trouble still has to choose to step through." Your wording seems to imply that the "blame" is equal between victim and rapist. IMO, it isn't. She did something naive/desperate/stupid, and may deserve a lecture on common sense; he commited a crime, an act of aggression, and deserves to be locked up.

As men, we must not project any insecurities we may have regarding female sexuality. 'Tis a great and mighty power the fair sex has, and "blaming the victim" is not the way to level the playing field.

Of course we can blame the so called "victim"! She knowingly went out dressed like a s1ut! We all know what sluts want right? A good pounding!!! It is ridiculous that some of you are disagreeing with my boy S_W_LeGenD right now.

If a woman goes out and basically invites herself to be sexually assulted she is just as much to blame as the guy who did it! She might as well have been wearing a "please rape me" sign.

At the same time i think we can all agree that if a man is outside without a shirt on and is assulted by an homosexual rapist he is to blame as well. Might as well have worn a "come pound my anus" sign. Sound silly? Not at all friends! Clearly all the male on male rapes in prison are due to prisoners being provocatively dressed. Just a matter of time before it spills out onto our streets!!!

In closing i'd just like to point out that if we all covered ourselves up completely like nuns do there would be no more rape. As we all know Muslim women never ever get raped and that is clearly due to their modesty.

I'm in your corner S_W_LeGenD!!!!

lol

men in jails do have those hard, muscled up bodies.

Originally posted by Oliver North
well, help me with something I don't really understand then. Your forum experience may be totally relevant here.

If the Globus Pallidus Interna is sending it's signals through the ventral anterior and ventral medial parts of the thalamus, based on inhibition from the putamin, is it the substantia nigra or the subthalamic nucleus that regulates inputs to the thalamus from the cerebellum, or am I confusing something about the direct circuit? or is it the indirect or super direct circuit?

Hopefully your forum experience can untangle my misunderstanding here....

You're just making up words now... 😎

Originally posted by juggerman
You're just making up words now... 😎

I wish

the thalamus is the part in the right picture that is grey and egg shaped directly above the STN (subthalamic nucleus).

The part of the striatum directly beside the GPe is the putamen.

^ The Striatum/GPe/GPi areas look like angry birds.

The STN/SN areas look like leering male aliens / Parallax from the Green Lantern movie admiring his reflection.

Damn, who needs Rorschach cards.

Originally posted by Oliver North
well folks, have a good one, I've been bested

We've all been bested by strawmen, dodges, false claims of concession, hypocrisy ad nauseum and non sequiturs. There's only so much I can take too.

Originally posted by Mindship
I think I worded it better (apparently why you quoted me): The woman is responsible only for "opening the door to trouble. But trouble still has to choose to step through." Your wording seems to imply that the "blame" is equal between victim and rapist. IMO, it isn't. She did something naive/desperate/stupid, and may deserve a lecture on common sense; he commited a crime, an act of aggression, and deserves to be locked up.

As men, we must not project any insecurities we may have regarding female sexuality. 'Tis a great and mighty power the fair sex has, and "blaming the victim" is not the way to level the playing field.


Nicely put. Thanks.

Originally posted by juggerman
Of course we can blame the so called "victim"! She knowingly went out dressed like a s1ut! We all know what sluts want right? A good pounding!!! It is ridiculous that some of you are disagreeing with my boy S_W_LeGenD right now.

If a woman goes out and basically invites herself to be sexually assulted she is just as much to blame as the guy who did it! She might as well have been wearing a "please rape me" sign.

At the same time i think we can all agree that if a man is outside without a shirt on and is assulted by an homosexual rapist he is to blame as well. Might as well have worn a "come pound my anus" sign. Sound silly? Not at all friends! Clearly all the male on male rapes in prison are due to prisoners being provocatively dressed. Just a matter of time before it spills out onto our streets!!!

In closing i'd just like to point out that if we all covered ourselves up completely like nuns do there would be no more rape. As we all know Muslim women never ever get raped and that is clearly due to their modesty.

I'm in your corner S_W_LeGenD!!!!


Sigh!

I hate it when people simply jump to short-sighted conclusions without even understanding the point-of-view of OP.

To be honest, learn a thing or two from member Mindship. He seems to be mature in comparison to judgemental freaks like you.

Of-course, rapes occur in many countries. But STATISTICS is the key word. In some countries, rape occurrences are much higher in comparison to others. And my argument is not just extended to rapes but exploitation on the whole.

Several factors have led to an explosion in trafficking for sexual exploitation in the late twentieth century. Increasing sexual liberalism in the West after the so called ‘sexual revolution’ of the 1960s and 1970s, and the resulting creation of a considerable pornography industry, led to a greater acceptance of men’s sexual exploitation of women. There has been an increasing polarisation between the world’s rich and poor. A large number of military conflicts, particularly civil wars, have created vulnerable populations of women. The increasing impoverishment of post-communist countries has led to the ‘Natasha trade’, in which Russian women desperate for survival are being trafficked into pornography and prostitution industries around the world. Military prostitution (created by the US in Asia, and now everywhere that UN peacekeepers go) has led to an explosion of these industries. Internet technology has also greatly increased the scope for sexual exploitation.

Source: http://www.arena.org.au/2002/04/global-trafficking-in-women/

Further material on sexual exploitation; http://philpapers.org/rec/GILPSA

Also, if you still do not get my point; visit the forums where Western women discuss their sexual history and the revelations may open your eyes.

Good luck with promoting nudity. Start from office.

Originally posted by Robtard
We've all been bested by strawmen, dodges, false claims of concession, hypocrisy ad nauseum and non sequiturs. There's only so much I can take too.

Typical verdict of a judgemental freak. You should be more concerned about your attitude problems. Reserve your shaming lectures for those who take advantage of sexual liberalism and not me.

Good luck with promoting nudity. Start from office.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nicely put. Thanks.

Sigh!

I hate it when people simply jump to short-sighted conclusions without even understanding the point-of-view of OP.

To be honest, learn a thing or two from member Mindship. He seems to be mature in comparison to judgemental freaks like you.

Of-course, rapes occur in many countries. But STATISTICS is the key word. In some countries, rape occurrences are much higher in comparison to others. And my argument is not just extended to rapes but exploitation on the whole.

Several factors have led to an explosion in trafficking for sexual exploitation in the late twentieth century. Increasing sexual liberalism in the West after the so called ‘sexual revolution’ of the 1960s and 1970s, and the resulting creation of a considerable pornography industry, led to a greater acceptance of men’s sexual exploitation of women. There has been an increasing polarisation between the world’s rich and poor. A large number of military conflicts, particularly civil wars, have created vulnerable populations of women. The increasing impoverishment of post-communist countries has led to the ‘Natasha trade’, in which Russian women desperate for survival are being trafficked into pornography and prostitution industries around the world. Military prostitution (created by the US in Asia, and now everywhere that UN peacekeepers go) has led to an explosion of these industries. Internet technology has also greatly increased the scope for sexual exploitation.

Source: http://www.arena.org.au/2002/04/global-trafficking-in-women/

Further material on sexual exploitation; http://philpapers.org/rec/GILPSA

Also, if you still do not get my point; visit the forums where Western women discuss their sexual history and the revelations may open your eyes.

Good luck with promoting nudity. Start from office.

Typical verdict of a judgemental freak. You should be more concerned about your attitude problems. Reserve your shaming lectures for those who take advantage of sexual liberalism and not me.

Good luck with promoting nudity. Start from office.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Typical verdict of a judgemental freak. You should be more concerned about your attitude problems. Reserve your shaming lectures for those who take advantage of sexual liberalism and not me.

Good luck with promoting nudity. Start from office.

Says the guy who's passing judgement on women, dictating how they should act/dress, shaming them if they act/dress "inappropriately" according with your arbitrary standards and holding them accountable is they're raped. Hypocrite.

And yet another strawman attack. Good. Good.

P.S. "take advantage of sexual liberalism" = Hahaaahaaahhahaaahhaahahaha. That is just so sad for you to think that way. So sad.

Originally posted by Robtard
Says the guy who's passing judgement on women,

This is funny. I passed judgment on promotion of sexual liberalism and not on specific gender.

Originally posted by Robtard
dictating how they should act/dress, shaming them if they act/dress "inappropriately" according with your arbitrary standards and holding them accountable is they're raped. Hypocrite.

I am dictating no one. I simply attempted to highlight the cons of sexual liberalism.

Originally posted by Robtard
And yet another strawman attack. Good. Good.

Here is what I stated in page 5:

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
But of course, some societies have gone too far under the garb of liberalism. These so-called progressive societies are once again reshaping women in to sex commodities and objects.

And I eventually supported my assertion:

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Several factors have led to an explosion in trafficking for sexual exploitation in the late twentieth century. Increasing sexual liberalism in the West after the so called ‘sexual revolution’ of the 1960s and 1970s, and the resulting creation of a considerable pornography industry, led to a greater acceptance of men’s sexual exploitation of women. There has been an increasing polarisation between the world’s rich and poor. A large number of military conflicts, particularly civil wars, have created vulnerable populations of women. The increasing impoverishment of post-communist countries has led to the ‘Natasha trade’, in which Russian women desperate for survival are being trafficked into pornography and prostitution industries around the world. Military prostitution (created by the US in Asia, and now everywhere that UN peacekeepers go) has led to an explosion of these industries. Internet technology has also greatly increased the scope for sexual exploitation.

Source: http://www.arena.org.au/2002/04/global-trafficking-in-women/

Further material on sexual exploitation; http://philpapers.org/rec/GILPSA

It is obvious from this that I am not just talking about nudity but I am talking about cons of sexual liberalism in general.

Originally posted by Robtard P.S. "take advantage of sexual liberalism" = Hahaaahaaahhahaaahhaahahaha. That is just so sad for you to think that way. So sad.

But people do. Your blindness to this issue does not negates my point.

Here is example of sexual exploitation:

http://www.seductionlabs.org/2007/04/20/why-do-women-get-used-for-sex-and-dumped/

http://drdalearcher.com/Relationships/i-was-used-for-sex-then-dumped

Sexual liberalism FTW

"I find myself having some strange conversations these days; recently I spoke to a lady that lamented the fact that whilst she had hoped to start a relationship, all the gentlemen she had met had used her for sex, and then left her."

LoL.

You and you stupid articles that don't support whatever insane claim (now: "Sexual Liberalism"😉 you're trying to push. Do you really think [some] men in a non "sexually liberal" society don't sleep with women they don't intend on dating/marrying? You seriously can't be this naive.

Originally posted by Robtard
"I find myself having some strange conversations these days; recently I spoke to a lady that lamented the fact that whilst she had hoped to start a relationship, all the gentlemen she had met had used her for sex, and then left her."

LoL.

You and you stupid articles that don't support whatever insane claim (now: "Sexual Liberalism"😉 you're trying to push. Do you really think [some] men in a non "sexually liberal" society don't sleep with women they don't intend on dating/marrying? You seriously can't be this naive.


Here is more appropriate source:

http://drdalearcher.com/Relationships/i-was-used-for-sex-then-dumped

This is just one form of sexual exploitation and is lot more common in WEST then you think. Just visit any forum about relationships and check the threads based on this topic alone.

Sexual exploitation takes place in many parts of the world. But it is enormous in sheer scale in sexual liberal societies.

Do not overlook this:

"Several factors have led to an explosion in trafficking for sexual exploitation in the late twentieth century. Increasing sexual liberalism in the West after the so called ‘sexual revolution’ of the 1960s and 1970s, and the resulting creation of a considerable pornography industry, led to a greater acceptance of men’s sexual exploitation of women. There has been an increasing polarisation between the world’s rich and poor. A large number of military conflicts, particularly civil wars, have created vulnerable populations of women. The increasing impoverishment of post-communist countries has led to the ‘Natasha trade’, in which Russian women desperate for survival are being trafficked into pornography and prostitution industries around the world. Military prostitution (created by the US in Asia, and now everywhere that UN peacekeepers go) has led to an explosion of these industries. Internet technology has also greatly increased the scope for sexual exploitation."

Source: http://www.arena.org.au/2002/04/glo...cking-in-women/

Sexual liberalism increases sexual exploitation; this is the crux of my argument.

hahaha, oh, I had forgotten about this thread

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Here is more appropriate source:

http://drdalearcher.com/Relationships/i-was-used-for-sex-then-dumped

This is just one form of sexual exploitation and is lot more common in WEST then you think. Just visit any forum about relationships and check the threads based on this topic alone.

Sexual exploitation takes place in many parts of the world. But it is enormous in sheer scale in sexual liberal societies.

I Was Used For Sex Then Dumped

Dear Dr. Archer,
I met a guy and fell in love with him. He said he liked me, but I didn't believe him. After some time, I began to believe that perhaps he did care for me, so I allowed myself to get more serious.

One day we were quite intimate, and after that day he left me. In fact, he stopped talking to me completely. His brother said he never looked at me as someone other than a friend and that it was me who was after him. I was devastated. He also said some very disrespectful things, too.

It's been six months, but still I am not over it. I still remember what he used to say, the way he'd pamper me, everything. I remember his touch, smell, voice, laugh, even though I don't want to. He lied to me, used me and cheated on me, then threw me away.

I want to get over this, but I don't seem able to do so. I'm not able to trust anyone now. It's so difficult, and I feel that I am mentally sick, as I am not able to trust anyone any more. Please help.

Poo

LoL, yet another irrelevant article to your point. Repeat: You REALLY don't think this "he ****ed me then dumped me" happens in non "sexually liberal" societies (ie non Western to you)?

What's next, a Dear Abby link?

P.S. "Poo"? Hahahahaaaaa. Gold.

Originally posted by Robtard
I Was Used For Sex Then Dumped

Dear Dr. Archer,
I met a guy and fell in love with him. He said he liked me, but I didn't believe him. After some time, I began to believe that perhaps he did care for me, so I allowed myself to get more serious.

One day we were quite intimate, and after that day he left me. In fact, he stopped talking to me completely. His brother said he never looked at me as someone other than a friend and that it was me who was after him. I was devastated. He also said some very disrespectful things, too.

It's been six months, but still I am not over it. I still remember what he used to say, the way he'd pamper me, everything. I remember his touch, smell, voice, laugh, even though I don't want to. He lied to me, used me and cheated on me, then threw me away.

I want to get over this, but I don't seem able to do so. I'm not able to trust anyone now. It's so difficult, and I feel that I am mentally sick, as I am not able to trust anyone any more. Please help.

Poo

LoL, yet another irrelevant article to your point. Repeat: You REALLY don't think this "he ****ed me then dumped me" happens in non "sexually liberal" societies (ie non Western to you)?

What's next, a Dear Abby link?

P.S. "Poo"? Hahahahaaaaa. Gold.


I am done with you.

Stay blind.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am done with you.

Stay blind.

To be fair, you probably should have bothered to read the articles in the links you provided to support your claims after you googled "evils of sexual liberalism". That's all on you, pal.

Just look:

Anonymous
9/10/2010 3:26:16 PM
It's a devastating lesson to learn that men will look you right in the eye and do nice things and pretend to care when all they really want is sex -- and they seem so sincere during intimate times! It's probably best just to remember this happens more often than not and not just close down but judge men by their constancy, openness and longevity, and what they're like in a little emergency or in circumstances less than ideal, because that will often reveal their true merit. If a man bails when you need them for something obligatory, isn't helpful when you need a helping hand, no matter what else he does or how else he acts, he's probably not good for the long haul.

DDA
9/14/2010 3:20:46 PM
We all want to be admired and love; it's human nature. Before believing everything someone says, become friends first and get to know the guy. There are many, many good men out there, just be patient and they will show up when least expected.

Originally posted by Astner
Because women with big breasts were capable of feeding more babies? Add natural selection to the mix and you'll end up with big breasted women.

I like big breasts in women. And I select them naturally as mates. And it's because I am, particularly, a breast man. More than I am buttock man. So in otherwords, I end up with big breasted women.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sigh!

I hate it when people simply jump to short-sighted conclusions without even understanding the point-of-view of OP.

To be honest, learn a thing or two from member Mindship. He seems to be mature in comparison to judgemental freaks like you.

Bashing is not a good look for you buddy.

Imo it depends on your outlook on life. Look at any animal in the kingdom and you will see breeding and survival are the top concerns. Animals will walk up to another animal bite down on their neck and go at it if they want/can lol. Humans are simply more evolved animals. Even though we are evolved we are still programed for these key functions. World wide full nudity would probably cause a rise in rape, public sex, and population. Imagine you are just getting into the height of your sexual desire and your walking down a crowed street with a lot of really pretty women. That could lead to lack of self control. Plus imo a world with full nudity would cause public sex and masturbation to soon become a new norm.

So to answer the question "why is nudity so taboo" because thats just the norm. Thats just what people are use to. I personally think nudity is awesome and would be cool to accepted world wide. I mean yea im attracted to the woman form but I can also set back and appreciate the art and workings of the human body. For instance as mentioned above breasts are there to feed babies. I feel if everyone could come to this understanding nudity wouldn't be that big of a deal. Honestly whats the difference in the skin on someones arm and the skin on their genitals? Nothing, its just people are so use to "covering them up" its become this awful thing to show it all off publicly when its really not.