Darth Thanaton VS Satele Shan

Thanaton is more powerful on Force skills, Shan is more powerful on lightsaber I guess. Who will win?

Satele Shan actually has superior force feats, her TK of the boulder was pretty powerful, and it's stated in Fatal Alliance that she is the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Satele Shan actually has superior force feats, her TK of the boulder was pretty powerful, and it's stated in Fatal Alliance that she is the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

She almost lost to Malgus.

Yeah, and Malgus just, like, sucks man.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, and Malgus just, like, sucks man.

Malgus' position is beneath the Dark Council.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Malgus' position is beneath the Dark Council.

You do realize that Dark Council members are powerful because of their cunning not necessarily because of their raw power right?

That doesn't mean he is inferior.

Edit: Beaten my M. Yoda. However, I would also add that Malgus wasn't interested in the scheming for political power like other Sith were. Instead, he decided to forge his own new empire.

Originally posted by ares834
That doesn't mean he is inferior.

Darth Council is the ruling body of the Empire, at least after the Emperor focused on devour the galaxy.

Only the Emperor's Wrath is above them when it gets to personal matters like treason. But even the Wrath could not decide politics and military campaign.

Ok, and how does that refute what I said. BTW, I was talking about physical/force power not political power.

Originally posted by ares834
Ok, and how does that refute what I said. BTW, I was talking about physical/force power not political power.

If you can defeat a council member, you will ascend into the council.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Darth Council is the ruling body of the Empire, at least after the Emperor focused on devour the galaxy.

Only the Emperor's Wrath is above them when it gets to personal matters like treason. But even the Wrath could not decide politics and military campaign.

Lord Scourge killed Darth Xedriss when he was only a Lord, but struggled with Darth Nyriss even with Meetra Surik's help. All Dark Council members are not cut from the same tree.

I also doubt Lord Scourge could defeat many of the upper crust of the Dark Council even though he is the Emperor's Wrath.

Rank also does not~Power.
And by the end of SWTOR Malgus takes control of the entire Pyramid of Military Strategy with the death of Darth Arho, and then says **** you to the Dark Council and succeeds successfully.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
If you can defeat a council member, you will ascend into the council.

Not true. Said Council Members have entire armies, fleets and apprentices at their command. Not to mention other Dark Council members as allies. Darth Malgus despises the internal power plays of the Sith and because of his hatred of political games in the Empire remains of a lower rank than deserved.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
If you can defeat a council member, you will ascend into the council.

As I said, Malgus wasn't interested in this (the holonet claims this).

And, no, you can't just kill a council member like that as the other members won't be to happy with such an overly ambitious sith lord around (Revan novel touches upon this). The reason the Inquisitor was able to do this is because Thanton challenged him to a Kaggath.

Not true. Said Council Members have entire armies, fleets and apprentices at their command. Not to mention other Dark Council members as allies. Darth Malgus despises the internal power plays of the Sith and because of his hatred of political games in the Empire remains of a lower rank than deserved. [/B]

Darth Nox did it that way, if he/she was powerful enough he/she could defeat Thanaton from the beginning.

Also the codex says:

While the undying Emperor serves as the unquestioned leader of the Empire, the twelve members of the Dark Council oversee the daily workings of their vast civilization and speak in the Emperor's name. Each is among the most powerful Sith in the galaxy; to hold a seat on the council is the highest honor and the greatest position of influence a Sith can attain.

Back to the topic, at least a council member won't be weaker than Malgus, so it will give Shan a tough fight.

I see why they call you Slowpoke.

Originally posted by ares834
As I said, Malgus wasn't interested in this (the holonet claims this).

And, no, you can't just kill a council member like that as the other members won't be to happy with such an overly ambitious sith lord around (Revan novel touches upon this). The reason the Inquisitor was able to do this is because Thanton challenged him to a Kaggath.

Darth Mortis made it clear, once you defeat a council member you will take his seat. Darth Jadus also took his seat back after you killed his daughter.

Many of the council members was involved in the death of their superior before they took the seat.

Yes, they were involved with it. However, It's not as simple as being more powerful and defeating them in a duel.

And once again, Malgus did not wish to join the Council. He had far grander aspirations than that.

Malgus wanted to be Emperor he couldn't give a flying turd over the internal squabbling of the Dark Council. He had the Republic kill Darth Arho so that he could assume his seat on the Dark Council and then immediately took the resources of the Pyramid of Military Strategy and used it to assemble his armada.

So back to the topic, Thanaton is also pretty strong, he could overcome Nox when he/she got Darth Andru and Ergast.

Some of the council members are definitely there on politics. Being able to arrange someone's death counts for almost as much as personal combat, after all. Or just being too indispensable to one's allies to let die.
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Thanaton's pretty strong, but I do gotta give it to Shan as well.

Satele was barely a Knight when she fought Malgus. If she fought Malgus when she is a Master then Malgus would have put up a valiant, but futile battle. The ancestor of Revan was just far too powerful.