Darth Thanaton VS Satele Shan

Started by Mizukage Yoda2 pages

Originally posted by Q99
Some of the council members are definitely there on politics. Being able to arrange someone's death counts for almost as much as personal combat, after all. Or just being too indispensable to one's allies to let die.
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Thanaton's pretty strong, but I do gotta give it to Shan as well.

Precisely, Darth Vowrawn for example has been on the Council for decades, but still was defeated by Lord Draahg. However because every Sith in the galaxy values him for his knowledge and power base he is one of the most respected members of the Dark Council. Even Ravage respects him.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Precisely, Darth Vowrawn for example has been on the Council for decades, but still was defeated by Lord Draahg. However because every Sith in the galaxy values him for his knowledge and power base he is one of the most respected members of the Dark Council. Even Ravage respects him.

Thanaton showed his own strength against Nox.

Yes, no-one is saying that Thanaton is weak.

Just not as strong as the False Emperor.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Thanaton showed his own strength against Nox.

Right and Malgus the Betrayer is capable of blitzing Darth Nox, the Wrath, the Barsen'thor, or the hero of Tython with lightning.

I think here it's quite difficult to work out just how strong these characters are, since they're always in flux. For example, we have the Hero of Tython, who managed to beat the Voice, holder of the Emperor's power and will. Yet it takes them, and 3 others to beat Malgus.

SWTOR is a tough one to categorized because of the fine line between game mechanics and actual feats. That and there hasn't been any state canon for the characters. So it's all up in the air.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Right and Malgus the Betrayer is capable of blitzing Darth Nox, the Wrath, the Barsen'thor, or the hero of Tython with lightning.

Because he's a FP boss rather than a storyline boss, Doctor Lorrick is more difficult to handle as a FP boss but that does not mean he's stronger.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, no-one is saying that Thanaton is weak.

Just not as strong as the False Emperor.

Proof?

His Force Lightning can turn people to ash, he can kill with his Force Pushes and he's really fvcking strong. All 8efore he 'mastered' the dark side.

IIRC.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Because he's a FP boss rather than a storyline boss, Doctor Lorrick is more difficult to handle as a FP boss but that does not mean he's stronger.

Not what I'm talking about. If you talk smack to him in the dialogue options he shoots force lightning and brings the whole party to it's knees.

Originally posted by Nephthys
His Force Lightning can turn people to ash, he can kill with his Force Pushes and he's really fvcking strong. All 8efore he 'mastered' the dark side.

IIRC.

Thanaton's storm was also incredible, and it took Nox+4 powerful Sith Lords' spirits and a Voss spirit's power to defeat him. When Nox went with Ergast and Darth Andru, Thanaton was still able to overcome him/her.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Not what I'm talking about. If you talk smack to him in the dialogue options he shoots force lightning and brings the whole party to it's knees.

It brought not much damage to the team, later he still got defeated by them.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Thanaton's storm was also incredible, and it took Nox+4 powerful Sith Lords' spirits and a Voss spirit's power to defeat him. When Nox went with Ergast and Darth Andru, Thanaton was still able to overcome him/her.

So your point is? Darth Nox is pretty featless without her spirits.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
It brought not much damage to the team, later he still got defeated by them.

Irrelevant he was still able to blitz 2 of the most powerful force users in the galaxy with lightning and kneel against their wills. We also have no idea how that fight goes canonically.
And if we want to go with gameplay there isn't a damned thing they can do against his lightning except force push him into the pit...you know it takes 2 force pushes to get him there right. And that is a scripted event btw.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
So your point is? Darth Nox is pretty featless without her spirits.

Irrelevant he was still able to blitz 2 of the most powerful force users in the galaxy with lightning and kneel against their wills. We also have no idea how that fight goes canonically.
And if we want to go with gameplay there isn't a damned thing they can do against his lightning except force push him into the pit...you know it takes 2 force pushes to get him there right. And that is a scripted event btw.

No, before the ghostbuster story begins

Nox
defeated Khem Val
defeated Lord Paladius when being severed with the Force.
defeated Jedi Master Nomar Ograna
was close to bring Zash down when he/she was not prepared as well as Zash.

The Empire characters all defeated a powerful Jedi/Sith before, there is no way that Malgus is more powerful than Jadus+Baras+Thanaton+that Jedi master in the end of BH story.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
No, before the ghostbuster story begins

Nox
defeated Khem Val
defeated Lord Paladius when being severed with the Force.
defeated Jedi Master Nomar Ograna
was close to bring Zash down when he/she was not prepared as well as Zash.

The Empire characters all defeated a powerful Jedi/Sith before, there is no way that Malgus is more powerful than Jadus+Baras+Thanaton+that Jedi master in the end of BH story.

Uhhh no one is saying that they are. But it is very likely he is more powerful than any of them.