Originally posted by Mindset
Usain is probably close to twice as fast as Roy running 100 meters. (At their top speeds)
I don't know if you know much about athletics, but Usain would not be anywhere near twice as fast as the average fit young male, let alone a trained sportsmen.
Originally posted by Mindset
The problem you see in my analogy is that you undersell the speed significance the two share.
Not sure what you mean.
Originally posted by PlacidityAt top speed he ran almost 27.5 mph. Easily twice the speed of the average young fit male.
I don't know if you know much about athletics, but Usain would not be anywhere near twice as fast as the average fit young male, let alone a trained sportsmen.Not sure what you mean.
In terms of percentages Bolt is much faster than you, or the average fit male, and even a top athlete who isn't a sprinter.
Originally posted by Mindset
At top speed he ran almost 27.5 mph. Easily twice the speed of the average young fit male.
Can you show me the statistic for the speed for the average fit male?
Originally posted by Mindset
In terms of percentages Bolt is much faster than you, or the average fit male, and even a top athlete who isn't a sprinter.
Clearly, you are playing semantics. I said he isn't "much" faster, (about 30% faster in a sprint). I said multiple times faster is what I considered much faster. Well, your disagreement with me on what "much" means doesn't really add to the debate.
My argument that your analogy was false was explicitly contingent on whether you believed Edward was much faster. I then explained what I considered "much". If you don't think he is much faster just say so, no need to argue what is meant by "much".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntc0YyQWdBU
Edward gets ass-raped.
Originally posted by Mindset
He also would have known Carlisle was going to attack him from behind when they were sparring.
He did. It's just that the fight was so fast it didn't really matter. You could see during their fight Edward twisting around. I dunno what powers Carlisle has but he was simply overwhelmed.
Originally posted by PlacidityNo, I refuse.
Can you show me the statistic for the speed for the average fit male?Clearly, you are playing semantics. I said he isn't "much" faster, (about 30% faster in a sprint). I said multiple times faster is what I considered much faster. Well, your disagreement with me on what "much" means doesn't really add to the debate.
My argument that your analogy was false was explicitly contingent on whether you believed Edward was much faster. I then explained what I considered "much". If you don't think he is much faster just say so, no need to argue what is meant by "much".
Originally posted by the ninjakNo he didn't, which is why he was told to never turn his back on his enemy.
He did. It's just that the fight was so fast it didn't really matter. You could see during their fight Edward twisting around. I dunno what powers Carlisle has but he was simply overwhelmed.
Carlisle doesn't have any powers.
Actually, I don't even know what fight you're talking, nothing you said happens.
Originally posted by Mindset
I don't remember him ever using it in a fight.
He does but it is another thing missing from the film that could have made it better. In the book, it is one of the coolest scenes because Bella describes them as a "blur" and that they were moving so fast she could not discern what was what. Why omit that from the film?
Movie Script Writer and Director's Meeting:
Writer: What should remove from the books that were actually cool?
Director: Pretty much everything.
Writer: Sounds like a plan.
Director: I'll be sure and slow all the vampires down, make them less durable, and eliminate some fights scenes. 13 year old girls don't like that stuff.
Writer: Touché. Let's go buy some buttplugs when we're done.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yu Law's fighting speed seemed to be above Edward's as well, so I don't think it would keep him from getting punched in the face.
I agree that Yu Law's fighting speed seems faster than Edward's...
Until I rewatched this.
http://youtu.be/gFnaEcRwziw?t=3m48s
Edward seems to "teleport" at around 3:48. He throws her and is right there to smash her. He's waiting for her, even. That's closer to how Edward was described, in the book, than what we see on film.
I vote this thread be recreated in the AvF where the Twivamps are stupidly underpowered in the films. 🙂
We'd get strength that is "thousands of times stronger than humans" and speed that should put Edward around mach 2.
Originally posted by dadudemon
He does but it is another thing missing from the film that could have made it better. In the book, it is one of the coolest scenes because Bella describes them as a "blur" and that they were moving so fast she could not discern what was what. Why omit that from the film?Movie Script Writer and Director's Meeting:
Writer: What should remove from the books that were actually cool?
Director: Pretty much everything.
Writer: Sounds like a plan.
Director: I'll be sure and slow all the vampires down, make them less durable, and eliminate some fights scenes. 13 year old girls don't like that stuff.
Writer: Touché. Let's go buy some buttplugs when we're done.
I agree that Yu Law's fighting speed seems faster than Edward's...
Until I rewatched this.
http://youtu.be/gFnaEcRwziw?t=3m48s
Edward seems to "teleport" at around 3:48. He throws her and is right there to smash her. He's waiting for her, even. That's closer to how Edward was described, in the book, than what we see on film.
I vote this thread be recreated in the AvF where the Twivamps are stupidly underpowered in the films. 🙂
We'd get strength that is "thousands of times stronger than humans" and speed that should put Edward around mach 2.
That was not even close to being as fast as Yu Law's feat of ducking, picking up a body, and using at as a shield. All this after the bullets were already fired and with only 1/3 of the power.
Originally posted by PsychotronWhat scene? It's been a while.
He punches through metal.
You're forgetting the following:
1. The fact that Edward will not tire.
2. The fact that he will regen any damage Yu Law dishes out to him.
3. The fact that Edward has telepathy.
4. The fact that Edward is at least as fast as Yu Law, Dadudemon's vid proves this.
5. The fact that the only way Yu Law can beat Edward is to dismember and burn him.
Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
What scene? It's been a while.You're forgetting the following:
1. The fact that Edward will not tire.
2. The fact that he will regen any damage Yu Law dishes out to him.
3. The fact that Edward has telepathy.
4. The fact that Edward is at least as fast as Yu Law, Dadudemon's vid proves this.
5. The fact that the only way Yu Law can beat Edward is to dismember and burn him.
I already posted the scene.
1. Neither will Yu Law, at least fast enough for it to matter.
2. Bullshit.
3.Which is totally useless.
4. More bs, bullets are faster than Edward's throw, and Law is >>>>>>>>>>> bullets.
5. Why is that a problem? He'll do it.
He's something you're forgetting.
Yu Law can actually fight, while Edward is an emo who relies on his powers and nothing else. Even if he has an edge in strength and durability Law's superior speed, skill, and experience will win the fight for him.
Originally posted by Psychotron
I already posted the scene.1. Neither will Yu Law, at least fast enough for it to matter.
2. Bullshit.
3.Which is totally useless.
4. More bs, bullets are faster than Edward's throw, and Law is >>>>>>>>>>> bullets.
5. Why is that a problem? He'll do it.He's something you're forgetting.
Yu Law can actually fight, while Edward is an emo who relies on his powers and nothing else. Even if he has an edge in strength and durability Law's superior speed, skill, and experience will win the fight for him.
I'll look in a bit.
1. He won't? Yes, he will. He's superhuman, but still human.
2. How so? You can't just say "nuh uh" and run away, elaborate.
3. I know but it sounds cool lol.
4. No, they move at about the same speed. The throw feat/s are darn near close to identical.
5. So Yu Law is strong enough to rip apart a being who is as durable as granite, then pull flames out of his butt to burn him? Cool story, bro.