Asgard vs JLA

Started by ODG12 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It not being a battle feat doesn't take away from its impressiveness. He formed Asgard from literally nothing but summoning a storm which raged on for days. That is a mightily impressive matter manipulation feat when you break it down and way beyond the likes of normal Thor. He also performed soul migration/transmutation by reviving all of the deceased Asgardians. Also well beyond normal Thor.

Two piecing Iron Man when Tony's historically been able to hang with the likes of Savage Hulk, Namor, and Thor himself for more than a few moments is impressive. He exerted hardly any effort.

I'd suggest reading Thor's multiple fights with the Destroyer Armor. It has always been portrayed as a threat beyond his means to beat save Odin's intervention or some plot device. The Destroyer actually killed Thor in Jurgens' run, and prior to that, was always depicted as capable of killing him and lol-stomping him. By direct comparison, Odin Force Thor tanked its ultimate attack with superficial damage to his armor and some burns. That is a HUGE feat, especially considering the exact same attack killed regular Thor. And Thor stopped the Destroyer under his own power, something he's never been able to consistently do, if ever. Again, HUGE.

I wouldn't place Bor on the same level as Odin or Zeus considering his lack of feats, but the feats he does have place him on a level well above herald. Heralds don't create beings like the Disir and pose a greater threat to Thor's life than the Destroyer Armor. They also don't make Mjolnir break upon being hit with it. What high herald could ever boast that? Heralds also don't pack enough power to easily kill the likes of an Odin Force/normal Thor with a stray strike.

And hell, if you look at the Odin Force's own history, even a very small portion of it boosts someone like Heimdall, (barely mid meta) to be able to no sell Masterson Thor.

Odin Force Thor is significantly more powerful than normal Thor, who in turn, is one of the elite High Heralds in comicdom. And yes, where it counts in battling as well. To deny this or argue against it doesn't even make sense and is trolling. This is a fact, not a matter of opinion.

OF Thor never fought Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm all for disagreeing and differing opinions.

It's just when on panel feats and showings and actual evidence are dismissed for...whatever reason people feel like.

Personally, I see Thor and Superman as peers considering their averages and "cutting loose"/high end feats. The difference in several areas between one and the other gets rounded out in the general sense and becomes negligible in the end run. And I don't see why an explicitly amped version of Thor couldn't "cut loose" to levels even higher than his normal version, similar to how an explicitly amped Superman should, logically, be able to perform virtually any "cutting loose" feat a regular Superman did. Same for Hulk, Green Lantern, etc.

It's illogical at best and at worse definite trolling.

At this point, arguing against OF Thor and Bor being > normal Thor and as such beyond high herald is arguing against what the actual comics show us in terms of on panel feats, statements, writer intent, everything.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
No, because you troll and you lowball, and it's at the point where you've been getting bad enough that you're on the cusp of a banning.

You're to Thor what carver is to Superman, at this point.

I don't lowball Superman and I know Superman is a high Herald with trans level fts. That is completely different from what's being discussed here. It's obvious Thor and Bor operated above Herald levels. You don't have to destroy a planet or knock down buildings to be an elite Herald/trans level character. That's childish debating.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't lowball Superman and I know Superman is a high Herald with trans level fts. That is completely different from what's being discussed here. It's obvious Thor and Bor operated above Herald levels. You don't have to destroy a planet or knock down buildings to be an elite Herald/trans level character. That's childish debating.

Carver, are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

Originally posted by carver9
That's childish debating.
Nuh uh, you poop head! ohno

Originally posted by Badabing
Nuh uh, you poop head! ohno
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Hahahahahah 😂 I still don't think dunderhead is a word. 😕

Originally posted by -Pr-
Carver, are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

I'm handing you knowledge. Please accept it.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm handing you knowledge. Please accept it.

Knowledge =/= lies.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Knowledge =/= lies.

😂 I will never understand. How long we've known each other, we are suppose to be like family. Accept it.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 I will never understand. How long we've known each other, we are suppose to be like family. Accept it.

Now you've gone too far.

The sexual tension is strong here...

yoda1

Originally posted by carver9
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Hahahahahah 😂 I still don't think dunderhead is a word. 😕

Definition of DUNDERHEAD
: dunce, blockhead, carver9
— dun·der·head·ed \ˌdən-dər-ˈhe-dəd\ adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dunderhead

Originally posted by -Pr-
Now you've gone too far.

Lol...I give up trying to bring the peace.

Originally posted by Badabing
Definition of DUNDERHEAD
: dunce, blockhead, carver9
— dun·der·head·ed \ˌdən-dər-ˈhe-dəd\ adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dunderhead

😂 😂 😂 ...did you really have to add my name to that.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 😂 😂 ...did you really have to add my name to that.
Talk to Merriam Webster. biscuits

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I give up trying to bring the peace.

So that's what you call it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I give up trying to bring the peace.

Take the piss, more like...

But I think JLA win this, with several dead/dying.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 I will never understand. How long we've known each other, we are suppose to be like family. Accept it.
You guys are family. We call you Prarver.

^ I formally request carver9 change his name to -Pr-ver immediately.

**** you guys.