Forgotten One vs. Morlun

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Has Morlun returned?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Has Morlun returned?

Not that I know of

Forgotten One

Gilgamesh wins this one fairly easily.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Gilgamesh wins this one fairly easily.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Gilgamesh wins this one fairly easily.

I don't know. Morlun is hard to gauge because he is primarily a street level villain but he has mid to high herald level feats like when he tore through Wakanda. He tanked vibranium missiles and ripped through adamantium netting.

Well looking at his latest appearance we have to assume that's the level he's at right now. When he fought Spider-man he was just playing and its not like Pete could hurt him. Morlun is definitely not a street leveler.

He's a Spiderman villain, doesn't make him a street level though... even in his first appearances he was a beast and it was insinuated he could tear through adamantium, which he later did in the BP series.

Originally posted by SamZED
Well looking at his latest appearance we have to assume that's the level he's at right now. When he fought Spider-man he was just playing and its not like Pete could hurt him. Morlun is definitely not a street leveler.

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With his best shot, a direct punch to the face (no rolling with the blow, Morlun got caught by a surprise), Pete was barely able to draw *some* blood. And Spidey written by JMS was really strong.

Even if he gets hurt (like stabbed), it doesn't bother him much as seen in BP book...

There are only a few ways to beat this guy. Either BFR or a certain type of radiation... or power absorption, apparently that's how Man Spider beat him, at least that's what the recap of the following issue said.

Yeah, Morlun was compared directly to Hulk by Spider-Man.

Yeah, I know, statements are taken with some salt, but then you have Morlun raging over Wakanda and shit, which would definitely be something close to Hulk's range.

Yep, Pete said he's never been hit that hard by neither Hulk or Thor.

The thing about Spider-Man saying Morlun hits harder then Thor or Hulk is dountful. I seriously doubt Spider-Man has ever taking a full punch from Thor or Hulk because I would bet Thor or Hulk could kill Spider-Man with a well placed punch. They would have and should have even strength and force behind their punches to crush every bone in Spider-Man's body.

I heard that the reason Spider-Man thought Morlun hit harder wasn't because the blow had more force or impact, but because it also was draining his power

Yeah, that's a plausible explanation. Morlun was also pretty fast, so maybe Parker didn't roll with his punch well enough like he could've with Thor's or Hulk's blows.

Originally posted by golem370
The thing about Spider-Man saying Morlun hits harder then Thor or Hulk is dountful. I seriously doubt Spider-Man has ever taking a full punch from Thor or Hulk because I would bet Thor or Hulk could kill Spider-Man with a well placed punch. They would have and should have even strength and force behind their punches to crush every bone in Spider-Man's body.

True, but then you look at what Morlun was doing to Wakanda.

That's not above high meta power levels and definitely something I'd expect from the likes of Hulk.

Thor has show battle field removing Titania with a backhand and Hulk has punch Namor a few states away I believe now Titania is a 500pounder and Namor is around 225-300 pounds. Hulk turning a ten ton titanium punching bag to rubble or punching a fully dense Vision through the earth are punchs that imo could have killed Spider-Man. The punch that Morlun hit Spider-Man and Spider-Man living to to tell the story tells me he can't hit Spider-Man as hard as Thor or Hulk.

Okay.

But like I said, when you look at Morlun displaying feats such as enduring vibranium missiles and ripping through adamantium netting, it's clear to see that Spidey's words aren't baseless.

It sounds like pis to me. Professor Hulk which is considered the weakest of the Hulk incarnations has been bitten by a dog that could crush adamantium in seconds and it did nothing to Hulk. The missle thing he is probably immortal thus the statement he been walking the earth for centuries.

How is Morlun walking through Wakanda's defenses PIS?

It's clear that physically, he was on a completely different level than Spider-Man - who was definitely written to be high end per JMS like Stiltman stated - and his blows were compared to Hulk.

Given what Morlun did later, it paints the picture that the guy definitely seems to be capable of reaching Hulk-like levels and feats.