Originally posted by golem370
What is considered out of Spider-Man's level? Lizard would be considered out of Spider-Mans level since he gets the better of Spider-Man more often then not and he is considered a 12 tonner. Does he get stronger the more he feeds?
Erm, what?
Lizard is stronger, faster, and more vicious than Spider-Man. But he's still in his typical range.
Morlun was not. I mean, the guy got compared to Hulk, which yes, in of itself doesn't mean anything. But then the guy turns around and strolls through Wakanda, tanking shit that would have obliterated Peter and most of his rogues.
So, to that end, it appears that Morlun, at peak, is around the levels I'd expect someone like a moderately pissed Hulk to be.
Originally posted by golem370
What is considered out of Spider-Man's level? Lizard would be considered out of Spider-Mans level since he gets the better of Spider-Man more often then not and he is considered a 12 tonner. Does he get stronger the more he feeds?
That's herald level right there.
EDIT - More here
Originally posted by ParmaniacDurability 01
Durability 02:
"Morlun--Devourer of Totems-- has come to feast in T'Challa, like a lion on a wounded Caribou. And thus far, he's proved unstoppable.""We have thrown missiles at him. Mortars and bombs. Laser cannons, vibraniumcore nuclear-tipped shells. air and ground assaults."
"We haven't even slowed his approach."
Support for the feat above.
Healing Factor: Heals in 1 panel.
Strength: Tears apart an adamantium net.
Strength/Exotic: Literally walks through a door and rips apart 2 guards with a simple swipe of his backhand.
The whole thing. Like I said he is probably a immortal with a healing factor. My point is if he in fact hit harder then Hulk or Thor I am pretty sure Spider-Man wouldn't have been around to say so. During a fight with Lizard Spider-Man got trapped under tons and tons of rubble he said I doubt Hulk could lifts this rubble yet a minute later Spider-Man lifts the rubble off himself.
Originally posted by golem370
The whole thing. Like I said he is probably a immortal with a healing factor. My point is if he in fact hit harder then Hulk or Thor I am pretty sure Spider-Man wouldn't have been around to say so. During a fight with Lizard Spider-Man got trapped under tons and tons of rubble he said I doubt Hulk could lifts this rubble yet a minute later Spider-Man lifts the rubble off himself.
Even ignoring that bit of hyperbole, Morlun withstood Vibranium tipped nukes (as well as everything Wakanda threw at him) and was strong enough to rip apart an Adamantium net; that alone places him well above your typical Spiderman villain.
Originally posted by golem370Spider-man's been hit by Hulk, Juggernaut and pretty much every other class 100+ character and lived to tell the story. So just because he survived Morlun's punhes doesnt take away from Morlun's established power level, especially concidering Morlun was holding back the whole time. What he did in Wakanda cant be concidered PIS as it doesn't controdict his earlier appearances. He was always shown to be out of Spider-man's league, we just didn't know HOW MUCH out of his league he was until the wakandan incident.
Thor has show battle field removing Titania with a backhand and Hulk has punch Namor a few states away I believe now Titania is a 500pounder and Namor is around 225-300 pounds. Hulk turning a ten ton titanium punching bag to rubble or punching a fully dense Vision through the earth are punchs that imo could have killed Spider-Man. The punch that Morlun hit Spider-Man and Spider-Man living to to tell the story tells me he can't hit Spider-Man as hard as Thor or Hulk.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWIve heard that too. Think its just a theory. Iirc its been mentioned that Morlun can drain life force but nothing about him using the ability to punch more effectively.
Yeah, that's a plausible explanation. Morlun was also pretty fast, so maybe Parker didn't roll with his punch well enough like he could've with Thor's or Hulk's blows.
Originally posted by SamZED
Spider-man's been hit by Hulk, Juggernaut and pretty much every other class 100+ character and lived to tell the story. So just because he survived Morlun's punhes doesnt take away from Morlun's established power level, especially concidering Morlun was holding back the whole time. What he did in Wakanda cant be concidered PIS as it doesn't controdict his earlier appearances. He was always shown to be out of Spider-man's league, we just didn't know HOW MUCH out of his league he was until the wakandan incident.
Correct.
He shrugged off everything Spiderman and Ezekiel threw at him, ripped through Parker's webbing like it was made out of paper even though he emptied his cartridges... it was said that the underground dome with adamantium at its core wouldn't save Parker from him (later we got the wakandan net feat pretty much confirming that statement).
Fun fact: Even Wolverine couldn't detect him.
Originally posted by SamZED
Ive heard that too. Think its just a theory. Iirc its been mentioned that Morlun can drain life force but nothing about him using the ability to punch more effectively.
It's been mentioned and shown, that's also why he was going after Spiderman, he wanted to leech the life force from him. Totemistic beings fed him more effectively.
But yeah, it's just a theory he could apply it to his strikes. It seemed more like an active than passive ability and there was the energy radiating when he was using it.
