Dragons: WoW vs GW2.

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Dragons: WoW vs GW2.

W/c MMO has the more powerful dragons?

Deathwing
Malygos
Nozdormu
Ysera
Alexstrasza

vs.

Zhaitan
Jormag
Primordus
Kralkatorrik
Deep Sea Dragon

5 dragon aspects vs 5 elder dragons

2 MMOs.

Who wins?

His name is Bubbles, not the Deep Sea Dragon 😛

I know next to nothing about the WoW ones (I don't play crappy games), but considering how much the elder dragons completely ****ed things up...yeah.

Primordus just starting to wake up drove the asura to the surface, Jormag's rising wrecked the northern part of the Shiverpeaks and drove the norn and kodan south, Zhaitan essentially sat up and brought an entire sunken continent to the surface with him, Kralkatorrik corrupted a huge swath of the continent so that almost anything that enters it becomes crystal (as well as shutting off travel to another continent), Bubbles has the entire southern oceans in it's grip so that travel cannot be done...

There's also the fact that the dragons are described as being essentially Lovecraft-like elder gods - they don't care about mortals. They're completely unable to be reasoned with in any manner.

Plus there's the fact that Zhaitan is actually a being made up of thousands of smaller dragons.

So...yeah.

Isn't Deathwing a life-wiper? As in, he was going to turn the world into a wasteland? He restructured the face of the world in Cataclysm iirc.

And Nozdormu has mastery of Time. He can look into the corridors of time and repeat events if they do not progress as he feels they should. Thats a pretty tough ability to beat.

What did Deathwing actually do in the Shattering of Cataclysm?

Really, nobody?

I don't play WoW. All my info came from the Outskirts Battledrome. I think EvilAngel was the gal who knew stuff about the Lich King and co. Maybe try tracked her down.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Really, nobody?

Never played Cata. Stopped around LK. Would love to know how the GW2 dragons (w/c are all badass) would stack up against the WoW dragons, tho.

After Cataclysm, the Aspects have been depowered and became mortal. In this state, they would obviously lose. At their most powerful, the Aspects would probably win.

As for Deathwing, he caused planet-wide damage and was going to destroy the world altogether.

Korialstrasz, Medivh, Cho'Gall Vs Deathwing

Deathwing vs Dante

Akatosh vs Nozdormu.

Best I can come up with GK. I was wrong though, looks like Q'Anila is quite the expert.

Akatosh would ragestomp Nozdormu.

I now know the truth.

Okay, from those links, as far as I can tell... the elder dragons are more powerful than the dragon aspects - with the exception of Nozdormu's mastery of time, which seems to be an instant win regardless of details. This is also hinging on the fact that most of the elder dragons have not shown the full extent of their abilities, and I can only work with what is actually known about them.

Deathwing himself honestly seems like a smaller Primordus, without the instantly summonable Destroyer army. However, while Primordus rent Tyria asunder, drove several underground species to the surface while clearing out massive tracts of subterranean caverns, melted the southern portion of an icy mountain range with a massive volcano, and kicked off the whole awakening cycle, it actually has been behind the scenes for most of the centuries it's been awake, and thus there are no direct feats.

Jormag has been more active, with several champions enslaved to its will. Jormag has been described as ice that creeps and consumes the world around it, and even indirectly is capable of corrupting its enemies to fight for it. In fact it did so nearly a century before it was even conscious, its sleeping power channeled through its sleeping champion to transform an innocent norn into a savage, cunning beast of ice. When Jormag awoke, its stirring cracked the northernmost lands, flooding the Far Shiverpeaks and creating new inland seas. It was thought to be completely invulnerable until (with the help of the Spirits of the Wild) one of the mightiest norn heroes, Asgeir, cut out its tooth, which is now in Hoelbrak and stands as a test to all norn. A century and a half later the tooth still stands unbroken.

Kralkatorrik was the last to rise, and that action broke the Blood Legion Homelands. It flew south, leaving black clouds and lightning in its wake, and its breath created the miles-long Dragonbrand that runs from the Homelands, through the entirety of Ascalon, and ends in the Crystal Desert where Kralkatorrik now resides, completely cutting off the continent of Elona. The Brand spawned the branded, monstrosities that used to be living creatures, now corrupted by crystal and stone. Kralkatorrik itself can become a ravaging sandstorm that blots out the sun.

Zhaitan is the dragon dealt with most directly, and the one that the most is known about. Its awakening dragged the lost continent of Orr (basically Atlantis, and the former seat of the human Gods) out of the ocean, and its mere proximity brought thousands of corpses back to life. It then raised the sunken ships in the Sea of Sorrows, creating a massive formidable navy that makes passage to Cantha impossible. Naturally, anyone who tries soon joins Zhaitan's army. Zhaitan itself is composed of the corpses of many smaller dragons, and its eyes and mouths are conscious entities that can move around and direct battles on their own.

Basically, the elder dragons are lovecraftian horrors on a whole different level. They destroy and corrupt all that they encounter, and their goal, if it can even be called a goal, is the complete annihilation of the planet. Considering that they simply embody the concept of fire, ice, death, etc. I don't see how a battle with the dragon Aspects could lead to anything but victory - again, disregarding Nozdormu's apparent always-win button.

Don't forget the fact that one of the five main races of Tyria came into existence essentially to combat the dragons...

There's also the fact that there's evidence that the last time they rose they completely wiped out a race into extinction.

Deathwing destroyed a planet just by beating his wings. 😬

...was it a small planet?

iirc it was stated to be about three times the size of the moon.

So where in the lore did that happen?

Because this thing is not blowing away a planet with its wings.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Deathwing destroyed a planet just by beating his wings. 😬

When?

Originally posted by General Kaliero
So where in the lore did that happen?

Because this thing is not blowing away a planet with its wings.

Aye, and this guy can't bust planets. Look how human sized he is.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Aye, and this guy can't bust planets. Look how human sized he is.

Deathwing was going to destroy the planet, but even for him it takes more than just flapping his wings.

You must not be caught up with the fluff