Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Pretty much. Eninn's level of interaction ranks slightly above Red Box.But it is jarring to see him show solidarity with a Christian. Not to say Muslims and Christians can't have any common ground; it just seems odd given the rarity of it.
Stealth Moose, you are better off with eninn not talking to you. He is far, far, far, more delusional then any of the Christians.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Eninn's level of interaction ranks slightly above Red Box.But it is jarring to see him show solidarity with a Christian. Not to say Muslims and Christians can't have any common ground; it just seems odd given the rarity of it.
Tell me, Moose:
Where have I ever, anywhere in this forum, said I was a Christian?
Is this something you're just assuming?
1. You white-knight Christian arguments.
2. You referenced the banning of the most definitively Christian preacher this forum has ever seen, even though your interaction level was minimal to nil in public eyes.
3. You referenced Genesis in a context which implies its diet adheres to natural principles.
4. You have argued against homosexuality, which is often a huge point of contention for religious people who can't own up to the fact that they are bigots.
5. You argued against the burden of proof, as the majority of Christians have done. This in itself is not a big deal, since most religious types do this. But in conjunction with the rest of the evidence, it merely adds flavor.
6. You haven't explicitly denied being Christian. Even now, when it becomes something you chose to reply about.
7. You argued about the legitimacy of the creation story and Adam/Eve at length.
So really, what have you done to tell me you are not a Christian? And why would you hide what your beliefs are, in a religious forum?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You white-knight Christian arguments.
I acted as "White Knight" for eninn a while ago.
And told you many members of my family are Muslim.
And posted a video arguing for the existence of God by an Islamic preacher.
Does that make me a Muslim?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You referenced the banning of the most definitively Christian preacher this forum has ever seen, even though your interaction level was minimal to nil in public eyes.
Lucien, Shaky, and NemeBro did this as well. Are they Christians?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You referenced Genesis in a context which implies its diet adheres to natural principles.
How are you NOT going to reference Genesis if you're explaining where Seventh Day Adventists derive their well-known eating habits from?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You have argued against homosexuality, which is often a huge point of contention for religious people who can't own up to the fact that they are bigots.
Are you talking about the elephants or are you still railing against Fox News?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You argued against the burden of proof, as the majority of Christians have done. This in itself is not a big deal, since most religious types do this. But in conjunction with the rest of the evidence, it merely adds flavor.
Told you exactly why I did so in the "Care to compare the Jesus you know to the one I know" thread? Told you where I'd gotten first hand experience of seeing that misused, too.
It wasn't in any religious forum.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You haven't explicitly denied being Christian. Even now, when it becomes something you chose to reply about.
Have you explicitly denied being Christian, Moose?
How is it you talk about having so many family members that are part of the Church and disappear from this forum during traditional worship service hours, anyway?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
You argued about the legitimacy of the creation story and Adam/Eve at length.
So is Shaky. So have you.
Moreover, both have you have referenced supposedly heavy Christian backgrounds and extensive Bible readership.
You even told me about Nephilim, which I felt compelled to journey to YouTube to learn something of. Don't think even your average every-Sunday Christian would know about them ...
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I acted as "White Knight" for eninn a while ago.
I honestly do not recall this, and earlier today I briefly reviewed your post history in an attempt to see if I had missed anything you might have said prior to the thread in which we spent most of our time getting nothing done.
And told you many members of my family are Muslim.
I honestly do not remember this either, but I concede I may have overlooked it. Not sure how I could have missed something so key to figuring out what kind of person I'm dealing with, but I'm sure you can provide this instance for me.
And posted a video arguing for the existence of God by an Islamic preacher.
As a rule, I don't watch Youtube videos others post in full but usually just glance at the title and maybe review a small amount or read the description, because most of it is rubbish and takes up a good amount of my time. I mean, Robtard posted a video of some guy talking about sodomy being okay if in the name of jihad. Youtube has a lot of interesting stuff on there, from various individuals. The video would have to be ultra compelling or come from a great source for me to otherwise spend the time.
Does that make me a Muslim?
It doesn't rule out the possibility.
Lucien, Shaky, and NemeBro did this as well. Are they Christians?
None of them argued against me at length defending religious positions and arguments, or else it might apply to them too.
How are you NOT going to reference Genesis if you're explaining where Seventh Day Adventists derive their well-known eating habits from?
Any time you reference a diet as adhering to natural principles, and then you note that said diet came from the Old Testament, how do you NOT realize that this is a religious argument?
Are you talking about the elephants or are you still railing against Fox News?
The elephants. Fox News, ironically, was not your source of choice. But the channel usually supports the religious right.
Told you exactly why I did so in the "Care to compare the Jesus you know to the one I know" thread? Told you where I'd gotten first hand experience of seeing that misused, too.
It wasn't in any religious forum.
Your attempt at justifying the dismissal of a universal method of proof is poor, regardless of whether or not it happened in a religious forum. You're also arguing each point as a stand-alone argument, and not as a whole. Each of these observations have led myself and others to conclude that you are a Christian, or Christian defender, whatever. You have not at any point indicated what you are, but you seem to be hovering around, eager to defend the downtrodden Abrahamics.
Have you explicitly denied being Christian, Moose?
Yes. Emphatically so. I noted that I am an agnostic, and I stated why.
How is it you talk about having so many family members that are part of the Church and disappear from this forum during traditional worship service hours, anyway?
I'm never on in the mornings and my posts can be as late as 4 AM EST. Figure that part out, professor.
Also, I was a Methodist until about 20-21, at which point after having lots of formal education in philosophy, logics and reasoning, and religion, I decided to read and evaluate my Bible. It shocked me how much was in there that goes relatively unnoticed by the most fervent of Bible-thumpers.
So is Shaky. So have you.Moreover, both have you have referenced supposedly heavy Christian backgrounds and extensive Bible readership.
You even told me about Nephilim, which I felt compelled to journey to YouTube to learn something of. Don't think even your average every-Sunday Christian would know about them ...
See above. Also, the Nephilim, while lesser known among most Christians who refuse to read anything but the passages their priest or preacher cherry-picks for them, is not unknown in the secular world. The first time I heard of it was here, back in 1998.
A description of Prophet Mohammed
The Greatest Man in history,
He is Mohammed Ibn Abdullah.
Mohammed means: The commendable in his attribute.
1- His nature:
- He was as white as snow, beautiful with stunning skin texture.
- He wasn't too tall and not too short.
- He was broad shouldered and chest, flat stomach and wonderful built.
- His hair was soft and rich, it's color as black as night.
- He was gorgeous with beautiful features and his face as bright as the sun, when he smiles all his features soften and fills with laughter.
- His mouth was wide, his teeth was like white pearls. If he talked light came out of his delicate mouth. His eyes were stunning, drawn as if with kohl but they were natural. Kohl is a known black substance Arab used to put around the eye to make it beautiful and it was a beauty measure.
- His hands were as soft as silk and yet large and powerful. Anas said (A man who knew Prophet Mohammed) {I've never touched silk or fabric that is softer than Prophet Mohammed's hands}.
- His hands were cool smells of musk, Abu Johaifa said {People took his hands and whipped their faces with it, so I took it and put it on my face, it was cooler than ice and better smells than musk} Told by Al Bukhari.
- His sweat was sweeter smell than musk and any perfume. A woman gathered his sweat to make it her own perfume.
Anas said {I've never smelled ambergris nor musk sweeter than Prophet Mohammed's scent}.
- His legs were white, powerful and burnish.
- His armpit was white and clean for he was a very clean and pretty man.
- If he walked, his strides were strong, fast and powerful, for nobody could catch up with him.
* His self morality:
- He was the best person for he was better than any good sent to any human.
- If he was given two options on any subject he'd take the easier unless it is a sin.
- He was more timid than a virgin.
- He never carp food; if he liked it he ate and if he didn't he didn't eat not uttering a word of not liking.
- If he talked, he would talk slowly, not hurriedly and never go on talking nonsense, if you try to count his conversation you'd count it lesser than your fingers.
- He never liked to gossip about people, he'd say {No one tells me about anyone anything, for I like to meet you with clean heart}.
- He was the bravest person and the best decent, Anas said {I've served Prophet Mohammad for ten years he never said: a pooh for something I did or why did you do that? Or will you do that?} This means he never gave orders and never asked anyone to do him a favor.
- He never crap anything, no matter how bad it is.
- If anyone asked him a favor he never says no, he gives without hesitation not fearing poorness.
- He moons with the ignorant and he is patient when someone huts him.
- He smiles to anyone talks to him and concentrate on one's talk until makes one feel as if he is the most important person in the world.
- When he shakes hands in greeting, he never takes his hand before the one greeted. He'd greet first and finishes greeting last.
- He's tickle children and greets them and he'd wipe the orphans' heads and play with them.
- He's answer the invitation of: the free, the slave, the servant, the poor and he'd visit any sick person.
- If anyone wanted to whisper for him a thing he's bend his head to hear.
- He's always first to greet people.
- He was the best person to his family and very patient with them; he'd ignore their mistakes and help them at house work. He polished his shoes and sewed his clothes.
- If a kid came to him, he'd take his hand to talk to him and go with him anywhere he wants.
- He'd sit with the poor. At any board he with sit until the end.
- He hates anyone to stand when he enters and he'd prevent people to exaggerate to compliment him.
- His gravity is a wonder, he's laughter was smiles, he talks when needed, and he'd talk easily and clearly, he was the best symbol.
- If he disliked something, it'd show on his face but never would he utter a word of dislike.
- He wasn't nasty, or damned anything, he never gives badly for bad he would be patient, excusing and forgiving.
- He's never meet one is something he hates.
- Never loose temper nor seek revenge. Even the Godless of that time talked and witnessed his honesty, decency and his straightforwardness. He pitied captives, freed the slaves, he organized the country, cherished women and make her a autonomic and not cheap.
- He'd never fight unless for God.
- He never shouts nor aggrandizes his victory, when he entered Mecca he was devout, silent, his chin touches his chest because of fearing and thanking God. He didn't enter arrogance, conceit and egotism.
- A man saw him while he was roaming around Kaba (God's home in Mecca) the man shook of fearing him as a king on earth, but Prophet Mohammed told him: {Take it easy, I'm only the son of a woman who used to eat charqui in Mecca}
* He was anchorite.
- He slept on mat, his pillow stuffed with rough fiber.
- He'd eat for month nothing but dates and would wriggle of hunger.
- He was merciful with his folks, God gave him answered prayers for eternity and he kept it for his people for the day when God calls people for computation and punishment, he'd pray for mercy to all his people. A great man who thought of his people's need of mercifulness on that day which Muslims call (Qiama) instead of using it for his own needs. This means he wasn't self-centered or selfish