Spider-man Vs. Elektra

Started by namorsubby4 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Is Spider-man faster than Captain America? Certainly. Is he fast enough two afford him a sizable advantage in combat? No. The reality is that, [b]every single top tier street has speed feats that rival Spider-man's best. All of them. Everything Spider-man has done speed wise, Cap has either out right replicated, or he's done something interchangeable from a logistic stand point. Spider-man might have speed on Cap, but Cap for his part has a vast skill advantage, granting him far superior timing, and ability to find his range, along with his knack for reading Spider-man's fighting style and predicting his movements, which allows him to expertly use those first two qualities. Cap will through combo's knowing Spider-man will dodge the fist two attacks, merely as a means to set up the fallowing. As we've seen in their fights, that goes a long way to neutralizing Spider-man's slight speed edge. It's like they are playing chess, Cap is playing ten moves a head, where as Spider-man only plans one.

Spider-man would beat Cap in a fight - his webbing alone does that - but not because he is so fast that Cap can't touch him. [/B]

no, just fast enough that he shouldn't. How does cap have superior timing vs someone who has forewarning of an attack along with superior reaction time?

spidey's speed feats>any top teir street

Originally posted by namorsubby
no, just fast enough that he shouldn't. How does cap have superior timing vs someone who has forewarning of an attack along with superior reaction time?

spidey's speed feats>any top teir street

Just fast enough he shouldn't, what?

By picking the perfect time to attack. Countering punching off Spider-man's attacks when his guard is down, throwing feints to set up attacks, stringing combos that he knows Spider-man will dodge specifically to set him up for a future attack. Spider-man's reaction time, even coupled with the spider-sense, isn't enough. Spider-man is barely faster than Cap, and his spider-sense isn't even close to an insurmountable advantage... especially when Cap has shown that he can read Spider-man like an open book. Cap can make Parker dance to the song he chooses.

Yes, Spider-man is the fastest street... just not enough to matter.

How can you read, predict, and counter accordingly to someone who moves faster than you AND has forewarning of YOUR movements?

Thats not a huge advantage? Moving and being warned of incoming assualt?

Cap hits spidey for the same reason grundy hits superman.

Elektra serves up some spider-kebob.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Cap hits spidey for the same reason grundy hits superman.

Grundy has super speed that shocked Superman 🙂 He blitzed him before.

Originally posted by namorsubby
How can you read, predict, and counter accordingly to someone who moves faster than you AND has forewarning of YOUR movements?

Thats not a huge advantage? Moving and being warned of incoming assualt?

Cap hits spidey for the same reason grundy hits superman.

Seriously? I've just explained it to you? Cap tags Spider-man because he is a far superior and more efficient fighter. He force's Spider-man to fight his fight, and sets up opportunities where Spider-man will be unable to avoid him. He knows how Spider-man fights, he can can predict how Spider-man will react. He'll throw a two punches that Peter will avoid because he knows that based on how Parker moves he'll land the third. Parker's speed and the split second warning he gets from Spider-Sense isn't enough to dance around Cap. Maybe if he stayed on the outside, and only concentrated on avoidance... but once he gets into melee and starts throwing punches of his own, it's not going to be enough.

Cap has speed feats on par with Spider-man. He hits Spider-man because he is fast enough to do so. Anyone who thinks other wise, does so because their knowledge of comic characters doesn't extend past the two sentence blurb on the back of a trading card, or poorly written wiki.

Both Spiderman and Cap beat Elektra, so it doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Mindset
Both Spiderman and Cap beat Elektra, so it doesn't matter.

Indeed 😂

Lets say elektra stabs spider-man......could he continue fighting?

Yea, it kinda depends on where she stabs him...

Hes clearly many times human durability when it comes to explosive, blunt, concussive force. As well as other things like electricity, but would a fatal stabbing for a human kill him?

A non pis spiderman webs her hands to her hips, and her feet together before Elektra knows what happened

Not gonna happen, she dealt with his webbing before.

Bugboy`s webbing is no match for sharp steel.

^Wouldn't be a problem if his webbing was potrayed as a sticky, adhesive substance in the instance as it often is.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Hes clearly many times human durability when it comes to explosive, blunt, concussive force. As well as other things like electricity, but would a fatal stabbing for a human kill him?
Well, he was once shot several times in the chest, stomach with machine guns and it didn't kill him. In fact he kept on fighting. For a whole day I think. Without getting any medical attention.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Seriously? I've just explained it to you? Cap tags Spider-man because he is a far superior and more efficient fighter. He force's Spider-man to fight his fight, and sets up opportunities where Spider-man will be unable to avoid him. He knows how Spider-man fights, he can can predict how Spider-man will react. He'll throw a two punches that Peter will avoid because he knows that based on how Parker moves he'll land the third. Parker's speed and the split second warning he gets from Spider-Sense isn't enough to dance around Cap. Maybe if he stayed on the outside, and only concentrated on avoidance... but once he gets into melee and starts throwing punches of his own, it's not going to be enough.

Cap has speed feats on par with Spider-man. He hits Spider-man because he is fast enough to do so. Anyone who thinks other wise, does so because their knowledge of comic characters doesn't extend past the two sentence blurb on the back of a trading card, or poorly written wiki.

I personally disagree with the Untouchable Spider theory, but Cap 10 steps ahead of Spidey? Come on, man. No PIS/CIS Spider-man will always be several steps ahead because of his spider sense (as long as we are not talking about some cheap ass alarm clock version of ss that some writers use). He does have better reaction time and is faster enough for it to make a difference. A significant one if combined with his other advantages. And sure, Cap is more skilled, experienced, can predict Spider-man's style... but that was always true for other streets like say Taskmaster (who just like Steve has superhuman speed) or even Bullseye. And that ability often helps them fight and even dominate Spider-man. And just as often stops being a factor the second Spider-man quits @&$!ng around. Don't see why it should be different for Cap. CIS off (no drooling over Cap) the gap in skill wouldnt be a problem for Pete. It was shown many times before which is not surprising concidering his physical stats and especially now that the skill gap is significantly smaller than before.

Well CIS is on by default spidey is still a bitcy insecure teen, not the mythical cant-be-hit and when-gets-serious-beats-everyone-easily version.

Super Soldier Serum and Vita Rays > radioactive spiders and totemistic bullsh*t 😛

Bugboy is also known to pass out after a little scratch like this:

Originally posted by Mshinu
Well CIS is on by default spidey is still a bitcy insecure teen, not the mythical cant-be-hit and when-gets-serious-beats-everyone-easily version.
Nothing mythical about it. CIS off Spider-man sh1tstomps your favorite character, the sooner you accept this fact the better. And no amount of patriotic jobber aura would help. CIS on simply means it'll take Spidey whole 10 seconds longer to sh!tstomp'em. 😎

Originally posted by Mshinu
Bugboy is also known to pass out after a little scratch like this:
He's also known for owning 1/2 of the Phoenix Force and walking away from a mountain-shattering explosion after so shut up. 😒