Maul bro's run a gauntlet
The Maul bro's (CW Maul & Savage) run a gauntlet.
Takes place in the Geonosian arena.
Two scenarios,
a) full rest
b) 30min rest
Here we go:
1) AOTC Kenobi & AOTC Anakin Skywalker
2) ROTS Kenobi
3) Kit Fisto, Shaak Ti & Eeth Koth
4) General Grievous & Asajj Ventress
5) ROTJ Vader
6) ROTS Dooku & Qui-Gon Jinn.
For that matter is ROTS Obi-Wan substantially better than current CW Obi-Wan who is basically Uber in Sabers??
And since the OP hasn't given ROTS Obi-Wan 2 Sabers to fight them both off, I really don't see him giving them too much trouble at all.
And geez look at the fighting arena people! Maul and Opress together would likely be TK'ing Obi-Wan all over the place!
No, he isn't really exaggerating. The maul brothers just don't have the ability to beat him in sabers, at all. Keep in mind, anything that applies to CW Kenobi also applies to ROTC Kenobi. Personally, I think he will sh*t stomp them in sabers.
TK is a possibility, though he has probably advanced far enough that he could defend against some attacks. (Note the, "some" area. And keep in mind Dooku is much, MUCH better with the Force than either Savage or Maul)
Originally posted by Pwned
No, he isn't really exaggerating. The maul brothers just don't have the ability to beat him in sabers, at all.
Yes he is greatly exaggerating, as are you.
There's absolutely nothing to suggest Obi-Wan could have fought them both off with a Single Saber. Nothing. If he could, Adi wouldn't have died.
Originally posted by Pwned
Keep in mind, anything that applies to CW Kenobi also applies to ROTC Kenobi. Personally, I think he will sh*t stomp them in sabers.
Your dreaming. He never stomped Maul in Sabers either of the times he fought him. Not even in the One on One!
Originally posted by Pwned
TK is a possibility, though he has probably advanced far enough that he could defend against some attacks.
Again your dreaming. ROTS Obi-Wan has done nothing to show he can match Maul in the Force.
Originally posted by Pwned
And keep in mind Dooku is much, MUCH better with the Force than either Savage or Maul)
And yet Dooku never defeated Opress with a flick of the wrist. That shows Obi-Wan wasn't that good at all in the Force by ROTS.
Maul would most probably defeat him in a one on one via Force TK. Maul and Opress together in an open area would be throwing Obi-Wan all over the place.
No way RotS Kenobi will be able to handle both of them.
Ataru without Jarkai would ensure quick death. Advantage of Jarkai is that it is possible to block attacks from both sides simultaniously, otherwise Kenobi would need to dodge much more instead. Even with two sabers he had to dodge attacks of brothers hell lot of times, so no way he would be able to keep up with single saber.
He would still be able to fend off both of them with Soresu as he demonstrated that right after Adi's death. However, it woudn't give him any chance to quickly kill either of them. He could tire up either of them in prolonged fight one on one, but no way he would be able to outlast both of them.
Finally fighting two opponents would take Kenobi's entire focus, thus his Force guard woild be opened allowing Maul to TK him like in CW.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERNah, your the one that is actually exaggerating.
Yes he is greatly exaggerating, as are you.There's absolutely nothing to suggest Obi-Wan could have fought them both off with a Single Saber. Nothing. If he could, Adi wouldn't have died.
Your dreaming. He never stomped Maul in Sabers either of the times he fought him. Not even in the One on One!
Again your dreaming. ROTS Obi-Wan has done nothing to show he can match Maul in the Force.
And yet Dooku never defeated Opress with a flick of the wrist. That shows Obi-Wan wasn't that good at all in the Force by ROTS.
Maul would most probably defeat him in a one on one via Force TK. Maul and Opress together in an open area would be throwing Obi-Wan all over the place.
A- I never said he had already stomped Maul in sabers, I said I am fairly certain he would. Or can Maul strike 20 times per second?
This Kenobi is a bit more advanced in his abilities the the CW one.
ROTS: Kenobi equaled a force push from Anakin. Equaled. I would personally say that Anakin is more powerful than Maul, wouldn't you?
ROTS: Kenobi equaled a force push from Anakin. Equaled. I would personally say that Anakin is more powerful than Maul, wouldn't you?
If Kenobi's Force defenses got better by RotS, Dooku wouldn't Force handle him. Personally I don't think that Dooku is more powerful than Kenobi. But it is part of Dooku's superior Force mastery that he can catch opponent off guard with a Force attack.
Originally posted by Pwned
Nah, your the one that is actually exaggerating.
By all means point out the part I've exaggerated.
Originally posted by Pwned
A- I never said he had already stomped Maul in sabers, I said I am fairly certain he would. Or can Maul strike 20 times per second?
This argument gets old and is frankly stupid.
Can Anakin strike 20 times per second? Can Dooku? Can Mace?
Does Obi-Wan beat them all if they don't?!
Originally posted by Pwned
This Kenobi is a bit more advanced in his abilities the the CW one.
Proof? His feat against Maul and Opress was probably his best Saber feat we have ever seen. Kenobi's not Skywalker. No where is it stated or confirmed that he was growing more powerful every day during the CW right until the end.
Originally posted by Pwned
ROTS: Kenobi equaled a force push from Anakin. Equaled. I would personally say that Anakin is more powerful than Maul, wouldn't you?
Means nothing. Skywalker's Force TK wasn't very masterful and his showings were very inconsistent.
Skywalker was more powerful than Count Dooku. Doesn't mean Obi-Wan's going to match/surpass Dooku in a force contest.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERYour twisting my words.
By all means point out the part I've exaggerated.This argument gets old and is frankly stupid.
Can Anakin strike 20 times per second? Can Dooku? Can Mace?
Does Obi-Wan beat them all if they don't?!
Proof? His feat against Maul and Opress was probably his best Saber feat we have ever seen. Kenobi's not Skywalker. No where is it stated or confirmed that he was growing more powerful every day during the CW right until the end.
Means nothing. Skywalker's Force TK wasn't very masterful and his showings were very inconsistent.
Skywalker was more powerful than Count Dooku. Doesn't mean Obi-Wan's going to match/surpass Dooku in a force contest.
For one: You are ignoring the fact that Kenobi is probably the best defensive fighter in the galaxy at this point. Sure, Dooku could get through his defenses, but thats what Makashi does.
So fighting in a war every day for years isn't going to make him better? Yeah, whatever. Come back when you have something believable.
Skywalker beat Dooku in a fit of rage. You know better than this, why are you even trying to go there?
Mastery doesn't matter when you are sending a wave of pure power at somebody. Kenobi showed that he could match Anakin there.
Originally posted by Pwned
Your twisting my words.
Nope.
Originally posted by Pwned
[B]For one: You are ignoring the fact that Kenobi is probably the best defensive fighter in the galaxy at this point.
I'm not ignoring anything. But giving random facts like that proves nothing. H
Sure, Dooku could get through his defenses, but thats what Makashi does.
So fighting in a war every day for years isn't going to make him better? Yeah, whatever. Come back when you have something believable.
Skywalker beat Dooku in a fit of rage. You know better than this, why are you even trying to go there?
Mastery doesn't matter when you are sending a wave of pure power at somebody. Kenobi showed that he could match Anakin there. [/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Pwned
Your twisting my words.
Nope.
Originally posted by Pwned
[B]For one: You are ignoring the fact that Kenobi is probably the best defensive fighter in the galaxy at this point.
I'm not ignoring anything. But giving random facts like that proves nothing. He's fighting multiple opponents here both of whom are physical and force beasts.
Oh and your ignoring Maul has completely mastered juyo, multiple other forms and is extremely skilled at unarmed combat.
Originally posted by Pwned
Sure, Dooku could get through his defenses, but thats what Makashi does.
Maul also seemingly displayed a high level of makashi against Opress when he swiftly deflected his power blows away one handed.
Originally posted by Pwned
So fighting in a war every day for years isn't going to make him better? Yeah, whatever. Come back when you have something believable.
Whose twisting whose words now? The CW series is already in the latter half of the CW. There's nothing to suggest Obi-Wan is to radically improve from this point on.
In fact I seriously doubt it, otherwise he would be stomping Dooku by ROTS.
Originally posted by Pwned
Skywalker beat Dooku in a fit of rage. You know better than this, why are you even trying to go there?
He used his anger to defeat Dooku. He also used his anger to fight Obi-Wan and stalemate him in a force push. What's your point?
Originally posted by Pwned
Mastery doesn't matter when you are sending a wave of pure power at somebody. Kenobi showed that he could match Anakin there.
Mastery increases connection to the force which increases the power of that basic force push.