Superman (DCnU) vs. Superman (Pre-Flashpoint)

Started by Golgo1311 pages
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i said i don't care, not sure why you strive to make it personal *shrug*

Because you like poking fun at me, I'll poke fun at you. It's only fair. 🧑‍⚕️

1/4 of the replies in this thread (excluding this page) are yours, psycho.

Leave Raoul alone and gimme some of those tears.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Because you like poking fun at me, I'll poke fun at you. It's only fair. 🧑‍⚕️
what exactly are you poking fun at? i'd like to know flat out

all i can gather is that you guys are having an emotional moment over a feat and you're going at someone you dislike for your own reasons in some sort of quasi-role reversal type thing. is that it? awww. i hope not...

Pre-Flashpoint still wins, even if this feat is legit it still just one feat and the older Supes still has better feats than that

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what exactly are you poking fun at? i'd like to know flat out

all i can gather is that you guys are having an emotional moment over a feat and you're going at someone you dislike for your own reasons in some sort of quasi-role reversal type thing. is that it? awww. i hope not...

I told you, Moran, I didn't want Superman to be so strong. It's going against what I wanted. I also stated a while ago that I wanted all the lantern corps to be dwindled down as well.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Pre-Flashpoint still wins, even if this feat is legit it still just one feat and the older Supes still has better feats than that

IF? It IS legit and Pre-Flashpoint doesn't have any strength feats like that.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I told you, Moran, I didn't want Superman to be so strong. It's going against what I wanted. I also stated a while ago that I wanted all the lantern corps to be dwindled down as well.
yeah, philo, you and me can "argue" further, no more of prep-man for me.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what exactly are you poking fun at? i'd like to know flat out

all i can gather is that you guys are having an emotional moment over a feat and you're going at someone you dislike for your own reasons in some sort of quasi-role reversal type thing. is that it? awww. i hope not...

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i said i don't care, not sure why you strive to make it personal *shrug*

hellspawnt wouldn't beat NE superman with a backhand like that, but we're not here to talk about that now are we

😂

Okay, sure, let's go with that.

will you believe me if a said "no"?

Originally posted by Golgo13
IF? It IS legit and Pre-Flashpoint doesn't have any strength feats like that.

What about lifting the book with infinite pages in Limbo?

Originally posted by Astner
What about lifting the book with infinite pages in Limbo?
Do you think Superman has infinite strength?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yeah, philo, you and me can "argue" further, no more of prep-man for me.

What the hell are you babbling about now?

Originally posted by Golgo13
IF? It IS legit and Pre-Flashpoint doesn't have any strength feats like that.

Lifting infitnity and holding or slowing infinity. Doesn't get better then this tbh. And the infinity book feat was legit imho. Though the DCnU supes should be on the same level I guess, as this wasn't his limit, bench pressing earth for 5 days without the sun... anyway, it doesn't matter who wins here both are >>>>>>>>>>> Hulk strength wise 😄.

Edit: And yes, I think Supermans has infinite strength, if he needs to and Morisson made it pretty clear with the best strength feat in comic history.

Originally posted by Golgo13
IF? It IS legit and Pre-Flashpoint doesn't have any strength feats like that.

Moving Mageddon which was bigger than the sun

Moving Warworld against the force of its engines with the power of Imperiex

Lifting the infinite book

Moving a solar system that was quickly growing to full size

Smashing all the planets inside the Galactic Golem

etc.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Lifting infitnity and holding or slowing infinity. Doesn't get better then this tbh. And the infinity book feat was legit imho. Though the DCnU supes should be on the same level I guess, as this wasn't his limit, bench pressing earth for 5 days without the sun... anyway, it doesn't matter who wins here both are >>>>>>>>>>> Hulk strength wise 😄.
If we take the infinite book feat, then no character that has, does or will ever exist can surpass Superman in strength. I don't think anybody agrees with that - it's not even a high feat, it's a cop-out feat.

On the other hand, once we compare how pre-Flashpoint Superman performs in terms of planet/moon moving (i.e. always needing help, and sometimes even failing with that help) to this Superman (by his lonesome, casually, without sunlight for days-on-end), the picture is quite clear.

Superman struggled against Mageddon, right, plus he didn't do it for FIVE days straight without the sun powering him.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Moving Mageddon which was bigger than the sun
He moved its chains, not Mageddon itself. Unquantifiable, you have no way to prove it's equivalent to planet moving, nevermind casual planet moving, for days-on-end, without the main source of his power - sunlight.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Moving Warworld against the force of its engines with the power of Imperiex
He was sundipped. 😐

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Lifting the infinite book
Already adressed.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Smashing all the planets inside the Galactic Golem

etc.

Those weren't planets, it would be generous to call them planetoids.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If we take the infinite book feat, then no character that has, does or will ever exist can surpass Superman in strength. I don't think anybody agrees with that - it's not even a high feat, it's a cop-out feat.

On the other hand, once we compare how pre-Flashpoint Superman performs in terms of planet/moon moving (i.e. always needing help, and sometimes even failing with that help) to this Superman (by his lonesome, casually, without sunlight for days-on-end), the picture is quite clear.

The difference between this version and pre-Flashpoint is maturity imo. Pre-Flashpoint Superman was holding back a lot, he was quite careful with his powers and was reasonable enough to ask for help if possible. However, once it was clear that everything is at stake and he is the only chance the Universe has, OWAW or FC, he did those feats without much trouble.
Current Superman is younger and seems more ready to push his limits without considering all consequences. All in all I think both are equals and have a limitless potential. Pre-Flashpoint already proved that and current is on the best way to prove it too.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The difference between this version and pre-Flashpoint is maturity imo. Pre-Flashpoint Superman was holding back a lot, he was quite careful with his powers and was reasonable enough to ask for help if possible. However, once it was clear that everything is at stake and he is the only chance the Universe has, OWAW or FC, he did those feats without much trouble.
Current Superman is younger and seems more ready to push his limits without considering all consequences. All in all I think both are equals and have a limitless potential. Pre-Flashpoint already proved that and current is on the best way to prove it too.

I was hoping that they would gradually build Superman's strength. This was kind of out of the blue.