Room for Improvement

Started by Estacado5 pages

Juggernaut:He pretty much sucks balls since the 8th day saga he makes a return in World War Hulk just to get BFR'd after like 3 panels. Then he get's punched into space by Hulk's son. After he get's tooled by Captain Universe then he loses most of his powers and becomes Luke Cage's lackey when he finally get's an upgrade he get's his ass handed to him by Colossusnaut after that Wolverine beats him as well.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Hulk
Hurdle: Flight 😂
only on this forum

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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How do you even manage to dress yourself?

Lmfao

Martian Manhunter
Hurdle: Superman's shadow.

Sentry
Crap story but could of been a cool new addition to the herald level class of Earth.

Iron Fist
Hurdle: Surrounded by weaklings.

Originally posted by Estacado
Juggernaut:He pretty much sucks balls since the 8th day saga he makes a return in World War Hulk just to get BFR'd after like 3 panels. Then he get's punched into space by Hulk's son. After he get's tooled by Captain Universe then he loses most of his powers and becomes Luke Cage's lackey when he finally get's an upgrade he get's his ass handed to him by Colossusnaut after that Wolverine beats him as well.
but i must ask you: what has juggernaut EVER accomplished in his entire history?

juggernaut is just a high-tier henchmen/goon. he even partnered up with black tom cassidy and offered up half his power (input) to him, he was willing to offer up the only thing that makes him a more powerful version of rhino.

i guess his best accomplishment was when he took over some random planet, then thor showed up and beat that ass, and sent him packing into the void of space. if that same thing happened these days, thor wouldn't have to worry about the 60 second deal and he would have layed him out for good.

seriously, given his default powers, cain marko juggernaut has the lamest resume of any villain in comics if you weigh his power with what he's gained with their use.

Hulk- No soul to the creature anymore. I can actually picture the staff meetings at Marvel, discussing Hulk status.-

"Listen folks. Our data shows that the age groups, educational levels, adherence to MTV culture and financial profiles of our current target audience, respond most favorably to lots of explosions, easy-to-follow-plots and stories that can be resolved, in every instance, by amp'ing Hulk's power.

So, we should not be seeing any form of complex dialogue, character development or intelligent problem-solving.

Thus, in closing, please continue the current trend. If readers actually feel concern for the hulk, this is bad. If the end of a book cannot be guessed by the second page, this is bad. If there is even a possibility that the antagonist could prevail over hulk, this is bad. Regardless of who the antagonist is.

And, one more thing. If I see any respect for Marvel continuity, in ANY way, shape or form, it's gonna be somebody's A$$!!!

Thank you. Back to work."

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but i must ask you: what has juggernaut EVER accomplished in his entire history?

juggernaut is just a high-tier henchmen/goon. he even partnered up with black tom cassidy and offered up half his power (input) to him, he was willing to offer up the only thing that makes him a more powerful version of rhino.

i guess his best accomplishment was when he took over some random planet, then thor showed up and beat that ass, and sent him packing into the void of space. if that same thing happened these days, thor wouldn't have to worry about the 60 second deal and he would have layed him out for good.

seriously, given his default powers, cain marko juggernaut has the lamest resume of any villain in comics if you weigh his power with what he's gained with their use.


Lulz.
Most of the villains don't accomplish anything since they are meant to lose.Just look at Doomsday he is a great villain and he doesn't have any goals just to do some damage or Darkseid he is all powerful and smart but he ends up losing to Superman.
As for Thor vs Juggernaut that match was PIS since his invulnerabilty never depended on his force field.
Also he was the one fought of most of the Examplars and saved Earth in 8th day and beat Thor without his forcefield in the same arc.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hulk- No soul to the creature anymore. I can actually picture the staff meetings at Marvel, discussing Hulk status.-

"Listen folks. Our data shows that the age groups, educational levels, adherence to MTV culture and financial profiles of our current target audience, respond most favorably to lots of explosions, easy-to-follow-plots and stories that can be resolved, in every instance, by amp'ing Hulk's power.

So, we should not be seeing any form of complex dialogue, character development or intelligent problem-solving.

Thus, in closing, please continue the current trend. If readers actually feel concern for the hulk, this is bad. If the end of a book cannot be guessed by the second page, this is bad. If there is even a possibility that the antagonist could prevail over hulk, this is bad. Regardless of who the antagonist is.

And, one more thing. If I see any respect for Marvel continuity, in ANY way, shape or form, it's gonna be somebody's A$$!!!

Thank you. Back to work."

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
seriously, given his default powers, cain marko juggernaut has the lamest resume of any villain in comics if you weigh his power with what he's gained with their use.

Beating up Hulkie Boy is good enough for me.

Besides Cain is a classic bully not a some evil mastermind, does he really WANT anything beside a beer and come creature comforts?

Gonna pitch in some more...

Red Hulk
Hurdle: Unique Abilities. Seems to be pussified atm. There is nothing that makes him special compared to the Green Behemoth save his tactical general mind and regeneration. Otherwise he's the very definition of brick.

Deadman
Hurdle: Costume. His design (old and new) just doesn't seem to fit his motif. Yes I know he died in his performing outfit but it's just awful.

That's all i can think off atm

Originally posted by Kazenji
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My thoughts exactly!
I knew we were on the same page. 😎

Originally posted by "Id"
I would like to see Dr. Strange and X-Man team up for a mini or macro series.

Considering that Marvel has a rich background on Paranormal Phenomena, and Occultism, a seed can be planted to develop a good gritty plot that plot.

With the current depowered status, either could use each others help despite being total loners to their cause.

I'd read that

Thanos- Needs to either get officially turned into a character with a permanent book, or, he needs the following changes:

1. Much Less Appearances. He is used way too much. There is no sense of awe when he shows up, like there used to be. No feeling of, "Oh Sh*t! This is about as serious as things can get."
2. Power him down slightly, so he is not unbeatable in combat. But, play up his intelligence, strategy, alliances and tools he has "acquired".
3. No more Good Guy Thanos. That is not who he is. The flip-flopping and stuff should stop. He is a villain. He should always be a villain. The Comic Book World should fear him. Period.
4. Let us stop knowing so much about him. Create some secrets again and new goals.

Geo-Force, Kimiyo Hoshi, Wally West and Red Tornado all need to be brought back.

Cyclops: Where do I start...
[list]Stop trying to make him the new Magneto. It's OOC and completely flies in the face of the last fifty years.
Stop trying to ruin what he has/had with Emma. Seriously, does nobody at Marvel know how to write a grown-up relationship?
Stop with the hand-gestures. Seriously.[/list]

Colossus: Needs to get a writer that will treat him the way The Thing is treated in the F4. Getting tired of stupid gimmicks and Colossus joining the "not-good guys".

Avengers: There needs to be a classic avengers team/book.

Oh, and fix Green Arrow.

Will try to think of others.

If you're not down with Cyclops, he's got two words for ya!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If you're not down with Cyclops, he's got two words for ya!

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The sad thing is, that's a real panel. I didn't have to edit anything bar crop the page. 🙁

I say Ares (Marvel). They never play up on his god of war status. He is always just portrayed as dumb brick.

Alpha Flight - IMO they are one of the most powerful teams in the MU. They can definitely be utilized more

Morlun - Morlun is a straight beast but his problem is that he doesn't have strong enough heroes to oppose. Because he has the link to animal totems he has only opposed characters like Spider-Man & black panther. I'd like to see him in a story involving a hero in a higher weight class. They can even do something with him & Sasquatch and tie rest of Alpha Flight in