Wolverine vs T-1000

Started by omgchos24 pages
omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by marwash22
incorrect.

I literally just mentioned this in the very post you replied to.

Anyhow, that was a tiny piece. The T-1000 cannot function when giant pieces are missing. When GIANT pieces are missing, it has to wait for the pieces to reassemble before it can continue with it's objective.

It never has large chucks missing in the movie...... even when it exploded most of it was there and it was stretched out everywhere. Only when it was shattered after freezing did it take a while for it to reform. Since you apparently make the concession that when pieces are missing the larger chunk can function why not slightly larger pieces. You have no evidence that say if his whole arm were cut of he wouldnt be able to still fight, sans the arm. When Schwartzenator swiped from his shoulder to his waist with that bis ass steel rod it practically bifurcated him, and he just formed around it almost instantley and popped it out his side as if he was made of oh idk liquid. Unless something hits him with ballistic speed/force or something affects him as a whole with massive force(ie an explosion0 hes not gonna be incapacitated long enough for it to matter. Wolvy takes one slice at him and hes got a chest or eye socket full of metal spike.

Lestov16 CTU Field Agent

I still think it's highly possible that Wolverine could try to swing at the T-1000, who then captures Wolverine's claws/hands within itself, like it did with Arnie, and then proceeds to ram it's fist-turned-spike into Logan's face for the KO.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

And those claws would rip through it. And theres not much that T1000 could do to penetrate Wolverine's skelly.

marwash22 HELL YEAH.

Originally posted by Lestov16
There's no way in hell he's going to be able to accomplish that because he does not have the speed required.
how much speed do you think it takes to cut off an arm and move the T1000 away from it?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wolverine is not going to be able to chop it into a million pieces and separate them.
gonna assume this is a joke and you don't really expect me to respond in a serious manner.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Also, you are underestimating the T-1000's strength. It threw the Terminator, an incredibly heavy robot, through walls and windows. If it punched/stabbed Logan in the face, I'm sure Wolv would be put down
T1000 isn't stronger than Blob and Wolverine took multiple punches to the face from him. T1000 isn't KOing Wolverine with punches.

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Originally posted by omgchos
It never has large chucks missing in the movie......
That is irrelevant and I'm unsure why you said it, unless you're suggesting Wolverine can't cut off large chunks, aka the T1000's arms/head/torso/etc.

Originally posted by omgchos
even when it exploded most of it was there and it was stretched out everywhere. Only when it was shattered after freezing did it take a while for it to reform.
irrelevant.

Originally posted by omgchos
Since you apparently make the concession that when pieces are missing the larger chunk can function
I'm making no such concession.

Originally posted by omgchos
You have no evidence that say if his whole arm were cut of he wouldnt be able to still fight, sans the arm.
Why would i need evidence to support a claim that i never even made?

The point is that, when Wolverine cut's the T1000's arms off, it can't get that mass back until the arm liquifies and rejoins the main body.

Originally posted by omgchos
When Schwartzenator swiped from his shoulder to his waist with that bis ass steel rod it practically bifurcated him, and he just formed around it almost instantley and popped it out his side as if he was made of oh idk liquid.
and if the T800 had used something sharp, like say adamantium claws, instead of a blunt pole, the T1000 would have been cut completely in two.

Originally posted by omgchos
Unless something hits him with ballistic speed/force or something affects him as a whole with massive force(ie an explosion0 hes not gonna be incapacitated long enough for it to matter.
You should rewatch the X-men movies to see the cutting power of Wolverine's claws. He has sliced through much tougher and thicker objects than the T1000.

Originally posted by omgchos
Wolvy takes one slice at him and hes got a chest or eye socket full of metal spike.
no.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by marwash22
That is irrelevant and I'm unsure why you said it, unless you're suggesting Wolverine can't cut off large chunks, aka the T1000's arms/head/torso/etc.

irrelevant.

I'm making no such concession.

Why would i need evidence to support a claim that i never even made?

The point is that, when Wolverine cut's the T1000's arms off, it can't get that mass back until the arm liquifies and rejoins the main body.

and if the T800 had used something sharp, like say adamantium claws, instead of a blunt pole, the T1000 would have been cut completely in two.

You should rewatch the X-men movies to see the cutting power of Wolverine's claws. He has sliced through much tougher and thicker objects than the T1000.

no.


You seem to be lingering under the delusion that when a piece goes missing the rest of the T-1000 doesnt still function. Although the proof says otherwise. The only reason the little piece left was dead was because of its distance from whatever connection it has to the whole body. When he got within range it wasnt the little piece that decided to rejoin like some kind of automatic process. The remaining body told it to reform. He has sentient control over his own body does he not? As shown by his shape shifting at will and forming weapons. Therefore just because Wolverine cuts of his arm does not mean it just stops working out of sheer loneliness. If he can tell a small piece to reform into his body when its near him he can tell his arms and limbs to reform as fast as he wants. The ONLY times he has ever been incapacitated for an extended period of time involved explosions and extreme changes in temperature. Can wolverine accomplish any of these feats? I did not think so. So unless hes packing a grenade launcher, a spraygun with liquid nitrogen, or a napalm gun hes SOL.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

When it ungoes heavy ass damage, even without being dismembered it has to take time out to regroup/repair/overcome the disruption to it's system. It halts all other activities in order to do this and seems helpless in some cases until that is done..
(The pretzel man after the grenade, the shotgun to the head, the mall bit etc etc)

And entirely severed pieces cant do anything until they are reclaimed by the rest of the whole. As proven by hook hand/arm not do anything (Including when John Connor grabs it, pulls it out of the truck and flings it off of the speeding car) Notice also that at no point did it imitate John Connor, even though that severed part had touched him....further indication that the parts which are severed are inactive.

Its safe to say that this would happen, based on lesser damage, that if he were cut into 8 pieces by a two fisted wolverine attack that this would be even more so.... It would be complete KO win to Wolverine...

Casper Whitey Restricted

So much sexual tension here.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
When it ungoes heavy ass damage, even without being dismembered it has to take time out to regroup/repair/overcome the disruption to it's system. It halts all other activities in order to do this and seems helpless in some cases until that is done..
(The pretzel man after the grenade, the shotgun to the head, the mall bit etc etc)

And entirely severed pieces cant do anything until they are reclaimed by the rest of the whole. As proven by hook hand/arm not do anything (Including when John Connor grabs it, pulls it out of the truck and flings it off of the speeding car) Notice also that at no point did it imitate John Connor, even though that severed part had touched him....further indication that the parts which are severed are inactive.

Its safe to say that this would happen, based on lesser damage, that if he were cut into 8 pieces by a two fisted wolverine attack that this would be even more so.... It would be complete KO win to Wolverine...

Again it was inactive due to its distance from the whole, not because it was apart. And you cant just assume lesser damage would cause any kind of disruption like gunshots. Its about the concussive force of the damage it took. Even people wearing bullet proof vests can be knocked out by bullets, or cause them great pain. since we saw arnold nearly cut the T-1000 in half and he just reformed around it, shows what would happen if Wolverine started in on him. Sharpness is not a factor. If anything the rod should have cause more damage. Its easier to reattach things separated cleanly then bluntly torn apart. And with arnolds strength level being so much higher than wolverines the proof is in the pudding.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Well since we saw it respond only at a distance of like a foot away from the whole, (Further corroborated by the method of gathering itself after the shattering incident) the odds are in Wolverine's favour.

We dont have to assume it: It was seen on screen.

NEARLY was the significant word. Wolverine, whole cuts foot thick solid steel in half will have no problem severing completely.

Arnie's strength is relevant in lifting and blunt trama attacks.
Sharpness IS a factor. Especially admantium sharpness. Cause that isnt bluntening, daddio...and parts will fly.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
So much sexual tension here.

Well there isnt here.
You should go relieve yourself somehow then come back.

😛

Casper Whitey Restricted

So what, you guys are arguing whether or not the T-1000's regeneration capabilities can be overtaxed if enough damage is dealt it?

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Pretty much. But more importantly, if it is likely to be forced to regen by Wolverine, which under forum rules is a KO.

I think it is certain.

Read back from the begging, or like 10-11 pages...should give you the general gist.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well since we saw it respond only at a distance of like a foot away from the whole, (Further corroborated by the method of gathering itself after the shattering incident) the odds are in Wolverine's favour.

We dont have to assume it: It was seen on screen.

NEARLY was the significant word. Wolverine, whole cuts foot thick solid steel in half will have no problem severing completely.

Arnie's strength is relevant in lifting and blunt trama attacks.
Sharpness IS a factor. Especially admantium sharpness. Cause that isnt bluntening, daddio...and parts will fly.

A foot away is good enough. Unless wolverine is taking the time to toos libs away which will only give the restof him time do some slicing of his own. And if arnolds strength wasnt enough to cut clean through we can therefore assume wolverines claws might get stuck in gis body. And your not taking into account the T-1000's speed wither. Hes not gonna sit there and take it. Wolverine was having a hard time dealing with mystique.

Casper Whitey Restricted

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Pretty much. But more importantly, if it is likely to be forced to regen by Wolverine, which under forum rules is a KO.

I think it is certain.

OK, I can see it taking a looooooooooooong time to regen. The grenade launcher to the torso is proof enough of that. More proof, .45 slugs from Sarah Connor did squat to it (hospital escape scene), but when she shot it with a SPAS-12, it rocked the T-1000.

So yeah, the more severe the trauma, the longer the regen.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Inertia of impact/cuts will likely seperate over a foot distance, and since T1000 stood at like less than a foot distance, we dont even know if a complete distance of a foot is applicable.

But since T1000 would have to cease all activity to regenerate it qualifies as KO anyhow.

IE: Wolverine would win.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
OK, I can see it taking a looooooooooooong time to regen. The grenade launcher to the torso is proof enough of that. More proof, .45 slugs from Sarah Connor did squat to it (hospital escape scene), but when she shot it with a SPAS-12, it rocked the T-1000.

So yeah, the more severe the trauma, the longer the regen.


Thats the point im making lol. I dont see wolvy having the strength or speed to deal that much damage. Hes likely to get a face full of spike before he does enough.

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
OK, I can see it taking a looooooooooooong time to regen. The grenade launcher to the torso is proof enough of that. More proof, .45 slugs from Sarah Connor did squat to it (hospital escape scene), but when she shot it with a SPAS-12, it rocked the T-1000.

So yeah, the more severe the trauma, the longer the regen.

✅ Aye.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Inertia of impact/cuts will likely seperate over a foot distance, and since T1000 stood at like less than a foot distance, we dont even know if a complete distance of a foot is applicable.

But since T1000 would have to cease all activity to regenerate it qualifies as KO anyhow.

IE: Wolverine would win.

That right there is the only hope he has. However since the T-1000 was still moving after it lost a limb it wont always sit still while it regenerates. Also when it was blown up after the truck crashed it walked away as it turned back into the cop.

Casper Whitey Restricted

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
✅ Aye.
But then we must consider the striking force of the T-1000. Wolverine has been KO'd by bullets to the head. Can the T-1000 strike him hard enough in the head to KO him? He was also KO'd by a tree trunk, remember?

Sadako of Girth Extreme Mode
Originally posted by omgchos
Thats the point im making lol. I dont see wolvy having the strength or speed to deal that much damage. Hes likely to get a face full of spike before he does enough.

Spike that woul bend off of Wolverine's Admantium skull, if it struck his face and anything extended to ward Wolverine would simply get severed.

There were no quick attacks from T1000 using that method.
Slow telegraphed stuff, (where victims froze looking at the finger pointed them before the attack) that Wolverine would see coming a mile away and react cutting off the threat.