What if the US nuked Mecca? (kinda)

Originally posted by Lestov16
We will assume the oil company covered their tracks. Would they make a substantial profit on the new demand for their oil?

covered their tracks?

I don't think you have thought enough about how much physical infrastructure would be required to launch a nuke. There are 3 ways to deliver a 100kt warhead: Silo launch, sub launch or dropped from a plane. All of those would require hundreds of people who would be impossible to keep quiet after the effect, especially since the intelligence services of every nation on the planet would be looking for them.

But like, if you are writing a story where you are willing to create such an unrealistic scenario in the first place, it really doesn't matter what would happen to oil prices in reality. Just say it does if that works best.

It's a suitcase nuke with a fictional fissile material. They covered their tracks. Will they profit?

Step 1.) Nuke Mecca.

Step 2.) ...

Step 3.) Profit!

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Step 1.) Nuke Mecca.

Step 2.) ...

Step 3.) Profit!

I agree with your assessment. Let me revise...

Originally posted by Lestov16
It's a suitcase nuke with a fictional fissile material. They covered their tracks. Will they profit?

I dont see why you have this fixation with making this one element realistic when you are clearly willing to throw out hardcore realism on every other element.

suitcase nukes are largely a myth. "covered their tracks" could mean anything. Why not just say they profited?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Not exactly the US, but what if a international cabal of conspirators framed the US by detonating a 100 kt nuke with a US signature during the Hajj? What would be the geopolitical ramifications, esp. in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Pakistan? Would non-Middle Eastern oil barons profit from this or would it harm their business?

Nuking Mecca may be the answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcQX033V_M

The answer to what?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Likely, most of the other major countries, China, Russia, Japan etc would nuke us back.

Russia are building nuke launching pads , soon the will be the most powerful Nuclear Country

😕

How about this?

What if the oil cabal attempted to frame Iranian agents for detonating a nuke in Tel Aviv (They create a message that makes it seem the bomber is connected to multiple members of the Iranian Assembly of Experts). Their aim would be to destabilize the oil trade in the region through a perpetual war, so that the oil cabal's product will increase in value. Is their goal plausible?

Originally posted by Lestov16
How about this?

What if the oil cabal attempted to frame Iranian agents for detonating a nuke in Tel Aviv (They create a message that makes it seem the bomber is connected to multiple members of the Iranian Assembly of Experts). Their aim would be to destabilize the oil trade in the region through a perpetual war, so that the oil cabal's product will increase in value. Is their goal plausible?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
To destabilize the oil trade they'd want to start a war between Iran and the Arab Gulf States, not Iran and Israel.

Would it be plausible to frame the US for detonating a nuke in Tehran? What if Israel was framed for detonating a nuke in Mecca?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Would it be plausible to frame the US for detonating a nuke in Tehran? What if Israel was framed for detonating a nuke in Mecca?

But I think you're hung up on an idea that may not be tenable. Perhaps before you attempt writing such grandiose plots you should cut your teeth on smaller things that don't effect millions of people and don't involve nuclear detonations.

Isn't it obvious? If Mecca was nuked, then from the Ka'aba an angel would emerge and lay waste to the United States.

Originally posted by Astner
Isn't it obvious? If Mecca was nuked, then from the Ka'aba an angel would emerge and lay waste to the United States.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not with American God protecting it.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not with American God protecting it.

I concede defeat.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But I think you're hung up on an idea that may not be tenable. Perhaps before you attempt writing such grandiose plots you should cut your teeth on smaller things that don't effect millions of people and don't involve nuclear detonations.

The scope is part of the story.

What if it were a defense contractor cabal, who framed Iran for attacking Israel? Is that tenable?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Would it be plausible to frame the US for detonating a nuke in Tehran? What if Israel was framed for detonating a nuke in Mecca?

That seems more like the MO of Kahanists, and considering how much harder it is to build a nuclear weapon, not to mention a pocket size one than most people think, there aren't many people you could frame. Even with the insane shit they get from their supporters in the Israeli military, I highly doubt they would get anything more than fissile material for a dirty bomb and contrary to what most people think, that would be no more destructive than a common explosive. Dirty bombs barely throw out any significant contamination, their danger is in creating panic among the ignorant. You can't really do much by strapping TNT to a piece of Uranium.