Creeper Vs Captain America

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Golgo13 Senior Member

Creeper Vs Captain America

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zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

This is the end result of this showdown :

And this is assuming the Creeper is feeling merciful.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Cap whoops that ass.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Creeper is no pushover.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Cap whoops that ass.

This is a forum fight, not a comic with a writer protecting Cap.
Originally posted by zopzop
Creeper's power were augmented when he took that little trip to Hell. Here he is (before the boost) :
Healing Factor (being torn apart by dozens of torture instruments) -

Durability (crashes a spaceship to Earth and survives just fine) -

Pain inducing laugh -

Demonstrating his new abilities after the Hell upgrade :
A boost to his already superhuman strength, fire immunity and "mane" control -

That's just some of it (what I could find on Comicvine). There's examples of his laugh causing actual physical damage to solid materials, him pwning a demon in hell, etc..


If Cap survives with his appendages intact, I guess you can consider that a win for him.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Those are good feats.

That doesn't mean he beats Captain America, "writer protection" or not.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Can Cap deal with the laugh?

CosmicComet Senior Member

Yeah, by not being affected by it.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Golgo13
Can Cap deal with the laugh?

Even ignoring the laugh, how would he deal with the mane? What's stopping Creeper from just strangling Cap to death with his mane? Look at the reach of that thing. That's assuming he doesn't just tear Cap apart with his bare hands (he's taken out a moderately powerful demon in Hell).

He's (Cap) not winning this fight at all.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Considering his willpower, pain threshold, and damage soak, I don't see why he couldn't push through it.

If those are the best feats Creeper has and indicative of his average since Reign in Hell revealed his demonic heritage (which was stupid, imo for Ryder's character), then Captain America can most definitely still take him out.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
Even ignoring the laugh, how would he deal with the mane? What's stopping Creeper from just strangling Cap to death with his mane? Look at the reach of that thing. That's assuming he doesn't just tear Cap apart with his bare hands (he's taken out a moderately powerful demon in Hell).

He's (Cap) not winning this fight at all.

Good point, but I asked because Cap has some good willpower. I'd like to see scans, though.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by zopzop
Even ignoring the laugh, how would he deal with the mane? What's stopping Creeper from just strangling Cap to death with his mane? Look at the reach of that thing. That's assuming he doesn't just tear Cap apart with his bare hands (he's taken out a moderately powerful demon in Hell).

He's (Cap) not winning this fight at all.

Feats for this demon? Because Captain America has steamrolled entire legions of Dark Elves and trolls and other creatures to say nothing of the actual named characters he's beaten up or sonned.

Nothing you posted from Creeper indicates he stomps Rogers, which seems to be the mindset you have regarding this fight.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering his willpower, pain threshold, and damage soak, I don't see why he couldn't push through it.

If those are the best feats Creeper has and indicative of his average since Reign in Hell revealed his demonic heritage (which was stupid, imo for Ryder's character), then Captain America can most definitely still take him out.


Creeper took out a demon in Hell and he beat a team of elemental metas which included the standard Brick type character that had seismic powers, a Human Torch type character, a Red Tornado type character, a Water Wizard type character and a Blizzard type character in a literal LAUGH.

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yeah, by not being affected by it.

👆

In all seriousness, though, Captain America's resume is a pretty goddamn impressive one.

Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
Even ignoring the laugh, how would he deal with the mane? What's stopping Creeper from just strangling Cap to death with his mane? Look at the reach of that thing. That's assuming he doesn't just tear Cap apart with his bare hands (he's taken out a moderately powerful demon in Hell).

He's (Cap) not winning this fight at all.

I just read that Creeper can teleport to hell and back. If so, that can also work in his favor.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Feats for this demon? Because Captain America has steamrolled entire legions of Dark Elves and trolls and other creatures to say nothing of the actual named characters he's beaten up or sonned.

Nothing you posted from Creeper indicates he stomps Rogers, which seems to be the mindset you have regarding this fight.


An overwhelming amount of Cap's fights suffer from horrendous PIS and writer protection. Case in point : AvX vs Rachel Grey. He was blocking her TK with his shield. She could have just CRUSHED his skull with her TK. Or disarmed him with her TK. Or BFRed him into the ocean or space with her TK. Of all the things she could do with her TK she chooses to "shoot" a TK blast at his shield? GTFoO here with that.

Without PIS/CIS or writer armor, he's not beating the Creeper.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I just read that Creeper can teleport to hell and back. If so, that can also work in his favor.

He can and he stated he's done it multiple times since his upgrade. There was a scan on Comicvine stating it but I can't find the thread now. Don't forget Creeper's maneuverability advantage being a superhuman class gymnast that can leap multiple stories high and cling to walls.

JakeTheBank Return of the King
Originally posted by zopzop
Creeper took out a demon in Hell and he beat a team of elemental metas which included the standard Brick type character that had seismic powers, a Human Torch type character, a Red Tornado type character, a Water Wizard type character and a Blizzard type character in a literal LAUGH.

Feats/context for this demon in Hell that Creeper beat?

Those scans you posted concerning the elemental metas display Creeper no-selling flame and out fighting them.

How does that translate into him beating Captain America?

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by zopzop
An overwhelming amount of Cap's fights suffer from horrendous PIS and writer protection. Case in point : AvX vs Rachel Grey. He was blocking her TK with his shield. She could have just CRUSHED his skull with her TK. Or disarmed him with her TK. Or BFRed him into the ocean or space with her TK. Of all the things she could do with her TK she chooses to "shoot" a TK blast at his shield? GTFoO here with that.

Without PIS/CIS or writer armor, he's not beating the Creeper.

You act like that's the craziest shit Cap's shield has blocked.

Not sure how Rachel being a tard as usual is a strike against Cap?

But yeah, let's not get into the "All of Cap's feats are PIS/writer protection" line of thought otherwise this thread is going to get derailed.

Golgo13 Senior Member

I'd actually like to see Cap resisting Creeper style laughter.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You act like that's the craziest shit Cap's shield has blocked.

Not sure how Rachel being a tard as usual is a strike against Cap?

But yeah, let's not get into the "All of Cap's feats are PIS/writer protection" line of thought otherwise this thread is going to get derailed.


Not all but a huge amount of them are outright PIS/CIS and/or writer protection. His fight vs Cyclops is yet another example. Why not shoot off a "mega optic blast" instead of a measly one EXACTLY within Cap's shield range to block? 🙄

But back on topic, without comic book shenanigans Cap's not winning even one fight.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'd actually like to see Cap resisting Creeper style laughter.

Some writers depict it actually having a real PHYSICAL effect on you and not just psychological/spiritual. The above scan was one example, this is another :

The Creeper is so underrated.