Originally posted by abhilegend
Due to him not being a kryptonian, just like Mon-El and ultraboy, but he was depowered under a red sun. It was always that colour and in Godfall it was referenced as HV.
I'm just saying it's not an identical powerset.
And even if it was, J'onn has phased through it before iirc, like someone said.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In vulnerabilities, no. In powers, yes. And superman has affected intangible beins with HV like Weird, vibrating flash, shadow demons etc.
Vulnerabilities would be part of powers, in my estimation.
Yes, i know, but that doesn't mean that it's going to hit J'onn every time, seeing as it hasn't always hit him.
Here he and manhunter hurt a phasing flash
Superman affects an intangible Weird with HV
Originally posted by -Pr-
Vulnerabilities would be part of powers, in my estimation.Yes, i know, but that doesn't mean that it's going to hit J'onn every time, seeing as it hasn't always hit him.
Except people with superman's powers have done that and superman himself has done that to intangible people. Nobody has as much finesse with HV like superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So Mon-El and Ultraboy have a different HV than superman or superboy? That doesn't makes any sense.Except people with superman's powers have done that and superman himself has done that to intangible people. Nobody has as much finesse with HV like superman.
Not nearly the same thing, imo.
And J'onn has dodged it. And I still don't agree that they're identical powers.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Not nearly the same thing, imo.And J'onn has dodged it. And I still don't agree that they're identical powers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then what is the same thing?
No, he phased through SBP's HV.
On what basis if I may ask? He has been said to have superman's powers, his eyebeams have been described as HV and what more can be done to prove its the same thing? If superman is somehow cured of his kryptonite weakness, his HV isn't going to be changed by it.
Tell you what, let's make it simple:
Even if J'onn phases, is Superman's HV going to hit him 100% of the time?
I say no. You?
