Daredevil Vs Shatterstar

Started by Bentley4 pages

When Shatterstar casually one-shots Wolverine in an entirely canon book, and when he knocks out one of Wolverine's nastiest enemies such as Gorgon -who is pretty much untouchable- with a single kick, maybe then we can start talking about Shatterstar giving Matt some troubles.

But seriously, DD has showings on his side.

Showings, experience, skill, better senses too, I bet...

Shittystar is out of his league here.

Originally posted by Bentley
Daredevil sh_tstomps, Shatterstar is fodder.

can't murdock simply evade shatterstar's moves and then attack??

Shatterstar is about as fast and as good a fighter as DD, in addition to being superhuman in strength and endurance, by a sizeable amount. If anyones losing steam as this fight goes on, it sure aint gonna be Shatterstar. DD is good, but hes just out of his power league in reliably beating SS.

Matt is one of the most skilled streets Marvel has and beating someone like Shatterstar wouldn't be nothing he hasn't done before...

Originally posted by DTM
Shatterstar is about as fast and as good a fighter as DD, in addition to being superhuman in strength and endurance, by a sizeable amount. If anyones losing steam as this fight goes on, it sure aint gonna be Shatterstar. DD is good, but hes just out of his power league in reliably beating SS.

Exactly. Recently he looked like he CASUALLY stopped a weapon attack by the Thing that was about to pummel Guido. Thing is Cl100 now no? That was a damn impressive showing by Shatterstar.

Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly. Recently he looked like he CASUALLY stopped a weapon attack by the Thing that was about to pummel Guido. Thing is Cl100 now no? That was a damn impressive showing by Shatterstar.

That happens in comics all the time, Daken stopped Skaar's sword strike with Wolverine's skull...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That happens in comics all the time, Daken stopped Skaar's sword strike with Wolverine's skull...

Not for anything but I think you are downplaying the Shatterstar/Thing encounter big time.

Do you have a scan of the Daken/Skaar incident?

In the Shatterstar/Thing fight; Shatterstar not only stopped a strike from a Cl100 character barreling downward on his teammate, he was casually swinging a weight around like a baton, tearing bits of flesh off Thing's face with his strikes, then hitting Thing (who weighs hundreds of pounds) with enough force to knock him through a wall.

Did Daken do that to Skaar?

If Shatterstar had his swords, THing would have been destroyed.

Originally posted by zopzop
Not for anything but I think you are downplaying the Shatterstar/Thing encounter big time.

Do you have a scan of the Daken/Skaar incident?

In the Shatterstar/Thing fight; Shatterstar not only stopped a strike from a Cl100 character barreling downward on his teammate, he was casually swinging a weight around like a baton, tearing bits of flesh off Thing's face with his strikes, then hitting Thing (who weighs hundreds of pounds) with enough force to knock him through a wall.

Did Daken do that to Skaar?

If Shatterstar had his swords, THing would have been destroyed.

I'm not. It was a one-time showing, nothing more.

I don't, but I can get it... it happened in Incredible Hulk #603.

Thing's hide gets cracked all the time. Wolverine managed to bust him through the wall, too.

No, but he did have Skaar on his knees and dead to rights...

You don't even know if Shatterstar's swords would be able to pierce Grimm.

Shatterstar sword pierced Classic Juggernaut...it should be able to pierce Thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Shatterstar sword pierced Classic Juggernaut...it should be able to pierce Thing.

In the same story Feral cut Juggernaut's arm 😬

Matt 10/10.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In the same story [b]Feral cut Juggernaut's arm 😬 [/B]

Even though I think DD stomps, that still doesn't take away from what happened. That is a ft for Shatterstar.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Matt 10/10.

👆

Stark and Murdock badly need revamping their threads. Seriously, a low meta gets one good showing (even though he gets owned later in the same arc) and people support him vs. The Man Without Fear?

Originally posted by carver9
Even though I think DD stomps, that still doesn't take away from what happened. That is a ft for Shatterstar.

No, it's just a bad showing for Juggernaut. And he aimed for his eyes, which are the vulnerable spots (still should be protected by his invulnerability enchantment/forcefield, but apparently weren't). Like I said, Feral pierced his skin in the same arc - you really think she could do the same to the Thing...? That's just poor writing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That happens in comics all the time, Daken stopped Skaar's sword strike with Wolverine's skull...

There are countless other examples like this:

*Elektra blocking Class 10 Silver Samurai's strikes

*Wolverine blocking Crusader's sword swipe

*Daredevil stopping Warpath's knives with his billy club

*etc.

Feral cut huggernaut's arm IIRC.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There are countless other examples like this:

*Elektra blocking Class 10 Silver Samurai strikes

*Wolverine blocking Crusader's sword swipe

*Daredevil stopping Warpath's knives with his billy club

*etc.


With the exception of the Daken/Scar incident (need to see scan), NONE of those examples are a street leveler literally blocking a heavy weight wielded by a Cl100 barreling down on their teammate ,apparently, effortlessly.

He wasn't parrying a horizontal attack which can be written off as deflecting it's momentum, he was blocking a downward strike.

Shatterstar was tearing bits of Thing's flesh off with each strike too, using nothing more than a common weight. Not adamantium claws, mystic hammers, magic swords, or whatever.

Originally posted by zopzop
With the exception of the Daken/Scar incident (need to see scan), NONE of those examples are a street leveler literally blocking a heavy weight wielded by a Cl100 barreling down on their teammate ,apparently, effortlessly.

He wasn't parrying a horizontal attack which can be written off as deflecting it's momentum, he was blocking a downward strike.

Thing is not class 100 and I really, really doubt he was going all out anyway.

You're just sugar-coating that showing.

Originally posted by zopzop
Shatterstar was tearing bits of Thing's flesh off with each strike too, using nothing more than a common weight. Not adamantium claws, mystic hammers, magic swords, or whatever.

It's happening to Ben quite often...

Originally posted by zopzop
With the exception of the Daken/Scar incident (need to see scan), NONE of those examples are a street leveler literally blocking a heavy weight wielded by a Cl100 barreling down on their teammate ,apparently, effortlessly.

He wasn't parrying a horizontal attack which can be written off as deflecting it's momentum, he was blocking a downward strike.

Shatterstar was tearing bits of Thing's flesh off with each strike too, using nothing more than a common weight. Not adamantium claws, mystic hammers, magic swords, or whatever.


So that one showing is all that matters?