Originally posted by -K-M-No, actually, you invoked Tanaraq as an absent-minded analogy to downplay Iron Man's options in clear ignorance of the character and his career. Your ignorance of Iron Man is one thing, trying to compare it to a completely different character's inner demon foibles was a non sequitur of dumbtastic proportions. I mean, I lost patience at the very first sight of it and I don't even care about these characters. That's how bad it was.
haha what? I said Walter would not go Tanaraq here several times. You clearly seem butt hurt. It came up in the first place as a snarky remark of people saying Iron Man would do things (not even Extremis) that he wouldn't do. No, I said when did Extremis as that's what the battle thread is about, do it? Walter losing control to Tanaraq is in fact in character. If you grown tired stop posting, as your wasting both of our times.
Originally posted by -K-M-It happening was never a point of contention and that wasn't what this argument was about. It was about what these characters do in-character. Turning over their bodies and souls over to demonic forces that are the very antithesis of what they want to be is not something that is in-character to do. Pay attention or don't.
Feel free, but Walter/Sasquatch has been turned far more times then your examples and it even happened recently so swing and a miss again.
Originally posted by -K-M-Sentry turning into Void happens a lot. Ghost Rider turning into Zarathos happens a lot. Hell, WWH turned Worldbreaker like 5 times in the space of as many issues. But that isn't in-character. It's something that they all fight against. And if you weren't so desperate to salvage such an erroneous comparison to begin with, you'd agree without reservation. And that all has absolutely NOTHING to do with Iron Man tapping/amping off energy sources.
Yep, butt hurt. As I have said many many times already he will not turn into Tanaraq here. However, your acting like it's not in character which it is and is constantly referenced and even Snowbird was taken over by Tanaraq 2-3 times when she took Tanaraq's form. That's very much in character. Just because you don't like it doesn't dismiss the fact it happens...often.
Originally posted by -K-M-Butt-hurt? Over Sasquatch? That'd be like getting butt-hurt over Puck. Who even cares.
Bingo, hence why I have debating in character feats from the start. Clearly I said Tanaraq wasn't a viable option similar to how Iron Man tapping into a grid, yet your acting all butt hurt. Unlike Tony, Walter draws from the power unintentially from an external power not like using tech to hack a system to tap into external source, its always there, but hey...context be damned eh?My you definetly sound butt-hurt, for someone who claims they don't care you clearly are not showing it. However, I digress as I actually don't care.
I've got less interest in Sasquatch than I do in you as a poster. Hopefully, that ought to inform you of how little I care. But that's probably exactly the reason why I didn't even bother entertaining such arguments with any sort of patience from the get-go. You don't know much about Iron Man. In fact, you know so little about Iron Man that you thought it fortuitous to bring up your Tanaraq security blanket even in the same breath that you pretend to dismiss it. That's what this is about. And don't try to rationalize your inept analogies by painting me as a perennially bitter Sasquatch-hater. You honestly think you're going to convince anyone that personal vendettas over such obscure and irrelevant characters exist? There's a time to attempt poisoning the well; this isn't one of them.
I didn't bother reading most of it, but apparently using the WWH satalitte gun, using his past Iron Man armor army, and tapping into the grid for an external power source in a standard fight is more acceptable then a snarky remark of going Tanaraq? even though I have said he wouldn't actually do. I said it over and over again he will NOT go Tanaraq, but your still clinging to that for some reason. Also never mind the fact they were using feats of Iron Man that weren't Extremis, but that somehow makes me ignorant of Iron Man? Bwahha priceless.
Also as stated by Marvel even recently Walter losing control to Tanaraq is very much in character. It has been his personality and a key focal point of his story more so then Ghost Rider, Martian Manhunter, etc. and has lost control far far far more then them and it happend recently not a one shot years and years ago. You claim I'm ignorant of Iron Man, but I can see your hate has made you strong with the dark side. Even Blair a huge supporter of Iron Man would not call me ignorant of the character. However, that's the arguement you are clinging to for life so not surprised. Sad.
Yep you still seem butt-hurt, as your clearly replying over something that was merely a snarky remark of people using tactics Iron Man wouldn't use here. You actually care far more about it then me. I look forward to your next pretenious reply 👆
Originally posted by -K-M-I'm not sure I'd want to read a completely withering indictment of my arguments either.
I didn't bother reading most of it,
Originally posted by -K-M-I don't know who talked about the Cathexis Ray. Not me. Although, that'd be interesting. But, yes, based on Iron Man's extensive career, him tapping the power grid of New York is definitely more defensible than Walter harnessing Tanaraq's power. And I'm not going to retrace the see-sawing you did over that. The only thing I will say is you see-sawed over it. I'd suggest you drop the apologist nonsense as a simple quote will completely tear this facade down:
but apparently using the WWH satalitte gun, using his past Iron Man armor army, and tapping into the grid for an external power source in a standard fight is more acceptable then a snarky remark of going Tanaraq? even though I have said he wouldn't actually do. I said it over and over again he will NOT go Tanaraq, but your still clinging to that for some reason. Also never mind the fact they were using feats of Iron Man that weren't Extremis, but that somehow makes me ignorant of Iron Man? Bwahha priceless.
Spoiler:. Nice
your 7th post on the 3rd page, smart guy
And your attempted paring between Iron Man incarnations is equally fruitless. Besides blatantly ignoring the times that Extremis Iron Man tapped into power sources, you seem to be suggesting that there is doubt that Extremis Iron Man could handle tapping into power sources. Don't dig yourself a deeper hole with your ignorance and misinformation over a comic character.
Originally posted by -K-M-Don't be so absent-minded. Walter losing control over to Tanaraq is him losing his character. He is figuratively and quite literally losing his character when reverting to Tanaraq. That's not an in-character thing for him to do. It may be a common (even tired) trope he's fallen into, like Thor going into Warriors Madness or Jean going Dark Phoenix-iy back in the day or Hulk going Worldbreaker a year back, but you can't have the audacity to argue that it would be in-character of Walter to do. Don't be so god damned ignorant of the character. We're not talking Tanaraq, we're talking Sasquatch, i.e, Walter Langowski. The same way when it comes to Sentry thread, people don't talk about Void but about Sentry, i.e., Bob Reynolds.
Also as stated by Marvel even recently Walter losing control to Tanaraq is very much in character. It has been his personality and a key focal point of his story more so then Ghost Rider, Martian Manhunter, etc. and has lost control far far far more then them and it happend recently not a one shot years and years ago. You claim I'm ignorant of Iron Man, but I can see your hate has made you strong with the dark side. Even Blair a huge supporter of Iron Man would not call me ignorant of the character. However, that's the arguement you are clinging to for life so not surprised. Sad.
Originally posted by -K-M-You know you're desperate when you're reduced to accusing people of being resentful of a comic character like the obscure/irrelevant Sasquatch. And I can't end this dispute on a better note than that.
Yep you still seem butt-hurt, as your clearly replying over something that was merely a snarky remark of people using tactics Iron Man wouldn't use here. You actually care far more about it then me. I look forward to your next pretenious reply 👆
Thanks for unintentionally punctuating my argument. 👆
bwaha see-saw? I'm sorry didn't I say he wouldn't go Tanaraq countless times? and commented only said it as a snarky reply but didn't actually mean it. Sure did.
They sure did, so your aruging over a point you didn't even fully read which promoted the snarky Tanaraq reply in the first place? You must just like to rant for no apparent reason and continue to rant
Also no Walter can lose control and gain an amp without fully going Tanaraq, happened recently in Omega Flight and stated in the handbooks he unintentionally draws extra power from Tanaraq. Me thinks you don't know the character. Irony? Also all your examples Walter has done more and happened recently. Also once again I guess I have to repeat it again....he will NOT transform here. To say it's not in character is false. Without Tanaraq there is no Sasquatch. I have been from the start basing this battle as strictly Walter not Tanaraq and have said it how many times now? A lot.
haha you're the one that said who gives a shit about Sasquatch and even Puck (where did that come from?). Do I think their the most rivoting characters? haha no. Desperate? Hardly. Your own comments suggested that. I digress again as you are clearly more dare I say it? butt-hurt over this.
That's the last of my replies on this subject. Feel free to finish another pretenious thread ignoring the fact I said he would't go Tanaraq countless times. I know you need the last word, so have at it.
Edit: My post on the 3rd page? You mean my joke about him going Tanaraq was after the fact someone said Iron Man would use his iron man army or the WWH satelite? All of the stuff has been done, but will either be used here? No. Which I have repeated many times. Not sure what the gotcha-attempt was supposed to prove? Even the post befoe the joke was "Walter can turn into Tanaraq but do you see me saying he does it here?" and right under it "Yes and yes. However, I dislike using it in battles. He fights not to lose control to Tanaraq, but the more pain or rage he experiences the more he loses control. He doesn't have a choice"
Originally posted by -K-M-Look at this guy trying to act like he didn't outright state Walter going Tanaraq was in-character at the same time he was dismissing it on page 3 of this thread:
bwaha see-saw? I'm sorry didn't I say he wouldn't go Tanaraq countless times? and commented only said it as a snarky reply but didn't actually mean it. Sure did.
JayDaDon : Let me ask you this question then, is the tanaraq in character for him to transform into? Is it an option the sasquatch normally utilizes? Honest question.
-K-M- : Yes and yes.
Originally posted by -K-M-I argued over you suggesting that Iron Man tapping into power sources was out of character as much as Walter tapping Tanaraq was. Pay attention, you twit. That you brought up the Cathexis Ray, something that doesn't even enter into the equation of my initial rebuttal, is just a desperately retarded straw-man on your part. I like how you tried to paint this exchange as me failing to closely follow the lines of our argument though.
They sure did, so your aruging over a point you didn't even fully read which promoted the snarky Tanaraq reply in the first place? You must just like to rant for no apparent reason and continue to rant
kinda
Originally posted by -K-M-Walter turning into Tanaraq is a tired comic book trope shared by many characters who have inner demons that threaten to possess/overtake them. That you continue to try to justify bringing up Tanaraq in the same breath that you dismiss its relevance is comedy of the highest order. IF TANARAQ IS NOT IN-CHARACTER, THAN SHUT UP ABOUT IT.
Also no Walter can lose control and gain an amp without fully going Tanaraq, happened recently in Omega Flight and stated in the handbooks he unintentionally draws extra power from Tanaraq. Me thinks you don't know the character. Irony? Also all your examples Walter has done more and happened recently. Also once again I guess I have to repeat it again....he will NOT transform here. To say it's not in character is false. Without Tanaraq there is no Sasquatch. I have been from the start basing this battle as strictly Walter not Tanaraq and have said it how many times now? A lot.
Originally posted by -K-M-The only tenuous argument you have here is that Iron Man tapping into power sources is so far out of character, it's on equal footing as Walter invoking Tanaraq. That you tried to straw-man and deflect from this unsupported and ignorant notion only belies your sudden realization that you were talking out your a$$ the entire time about Iron Man.
haha you're the one that said who gives a shit about Sasquatch and even Puck (where did that come from?). Do I think their the most rivoting characters? haha no. Desperate? Hardly. Your own comments suggested that. I digress again as you are clearly more dare I say it? butt-hurt over this.That's the last of my replies on this subject. Feel free to finish another pretenious thread ignoring the fact I said he would't go Tanaraq countless times. I know you need the last word, so have at it.
Edit: My post on the 3rd page? You mean my joke about him going Tanaraq was after the fact someone said Iron Man would use his iron man army or the WWH satelite? All of the stuff has been done, but will either be used here? No. Which I have repeated many times. Not sure what the gotcha-attempt was supposed to prove? Even the post befoe the joke was "Walter can turn into Tanaraq but do you see me saying he does it here?" and right under it "Yes and yes. However, I dislike using it in battles. He fights not to lose control to Tanaraq, but the more pain or rage he experiences the more he loses control. He doesn't have a choice"
Make the argument or don't. Your Tanaraq security blanket is not in-character. Something you stated several times (almost as often as you kept trying to invoke/justify it). If you want to argue that Iron Man tapping power sources is even less in-character, or equally as non-characteristic, than Walter giving into Tanaraq's demonic power then make the argument.
But as we've consistently seen, you don't... and you won't. As anybody with even a lick of sense and some background on Iron Man would see that as a complete loser. Even without any background information, common sense should have informed you: smartly tapping into neutral and ready power sources vs. self-damningly giving your mind/soul over to demonic force? What exactly would be more in-character, smart guy?
But common sense has failed you in this regard. More's the pity.
Sigh! Didn't want to reply, but since you are trying to use a direct quote from me to "catch me". The "Yes and yes" quote is me replying is it in character for Sasquatch to turn into Tanaraq and I said yes (which it is). and said even before that and after that quote he wouldn't go Tanaraq here. Hence the snarky Tanaraq remark came up after people saying IM would use the WWH satelite, tech that Extreme didn't have, iron man drone army and when another member even asked is that even in character for Iron Man to use here. Before and after that quote I said he wouldn't transform here...many times. Soooo point?
Also you didn't disapoint with the pretenious post and still ignored what I was saying. Bravo
.....sad last word post that will construde what I was saying due to come.
Originally posted by -K-M-I agree with you, here. You did, in fact, try to justify Walter invoking Tanaraq as in-character. 👆
Sigh! Didn't want to reply, but since you are trying to use a direct quote from me to "catch me". The "Yes and yes" quote is me replying is it in character for Sasquatch to turn into Tanaraq and I said yes (which it is).
Originally posted by -K-M-Point is, you brought up Cathexis ray... and now Iron drone army, etc.,... in a conversation between you and me that focused only on Iron Man tapping external power sources. Pay attention, or don't.
and said even before that and after that quote he wouldn't go Tanaraq here. Hence the snarky Tanaraq remark came up after people saying IM would use the WWH satelite, tech that Extreme didn't have, iron man drone army and when another member even asked is that even in character for Iron Man to use here. Before and after that quote I said he wouldn't transform here...many times. Soooo point?
Originally posted by -K-M-You confuse pretentiousness with impatience. I've a right to derogate absent-minded arguments like everybody else on the internet. The derogation being sharp and pointed is something you'll just have to get over. Start by informing yourself about the characters involved.
Also you didn't disapoint with the pretenious post and still ignored what I was saying. Bravo
Originally posted by -K-M-Even a moron can predict that I'd deconstruct your feeble attempts to justify your absent-minded post. That's what I've been doing the last few posts, after all. Let me know when you're ready to argue that Iron Man tapping external power sources is as out of character as Walter harnessing Tanaraq which isn't in-character at all as admitted by you...
.....sad last word post that will construde what I was saying due to come.
There's circumstances with it as he's currently in a magical prison so it's diffucult for him. A lot of times when Tanaraq took control of the host completly the host was killed
Non-canon, but here is Exiles Sasquatch "deal" with Tanaraq
1. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP02.jpg
2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP03.jpg
3. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Exilesv10572005puar-DCP04.jpg
