The Joker vs Raoul Silva

Just saw Skyfall, and it's the best Bond film ever! The main antagonist, Silva, beared some similarities to Batman's nemesis, the Joker, so I decided to make this matchup!

So it's...

The Joker (The Dark Knight) armed with aregular handgun.

vs

Tiago Rodriguez AKA Raoul Silva (Skyfall) also armed with a regular handgun.

(Just a mini-setup, though may contain spoilers...)

Silva grabs M's hand and tries to to convince her to shoot herself and Silva with the same bullet, when suddenly, a shot comes throught the window and kills M.

"Bastard! She was mine, Bond!" yells Silva (Assuming he missed and killed M instead of him).

A shadow emerges, but it's not that of Bond...

"Let me show you a magic trick..."

And so the battle begins! Who will win?

What?

The title is Sherlock Holmes v Zorro.

And now it's Silva v Joker?

Joker gets shot in the face because Silva was a highly trained MI6 agent, while Joker was just a crazy guy who got shit done.

Also, Sherlock would have won against Zorro.

lolzz

Joker dies

Raoul.

He'll win in any scenario.

Geez a thread already.....

Damnnnn.....I can't wait for this freakin movie!

Originally posted by KingD19
What?

Joker gets shot in the face because Silva was a highly trained MI6 agent, while Joker was just a crazy guy who got shit done.

silva wus a agent yes but not a 00 he wus a Cyber agent did a lot of work on a laptop so he did not have 00 traineing.

He was still a trained MI6 agent. And unless I'm wrong, even desk agents get defense and weapons training. It's standard issue.

Originally posted by KingD19
He was still a trained MI6 agent. And unless I'm wrong, even desk agents get defense and weapons training. It's standard issue.

Better prep? Did you see what Silva did in Skyfall?

I'd say the entire Coleman Reese/Hospital gambit just so he could get close to Dent was better than any prep Silva showed.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I'd say the entire Coleman Reese/Hospital gambit just so he could get close to Dent was better than any prep Silva showed.

I'd say the whole bomb MI6 so they go to a different location which Silva already knew about and prepped then get captured under false pretense and already have a complex escape plan which among other things had an explosion and passing train timed perfectly in order to get M right where he wanted her surpasses Joker's Dent plan.

But that's just me.

I would say the joker intentionally getting himself captured just so he could distract bats and the gcpd from saving dent and Rachel, then escaping using a piece of glass, just so he could mindrape harvey later in an even more convoluted hospital bomb plot, surpasses Silva's plan. Joker could have probably killed M at the hearing without having to use any tech whatsoever, given how he killed the judge and the commissioner. I'd say his plot to assassinate the mayor outranks Silva's plot.

But that's just me.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I would say the joker intentionally getting himself captured just so he could distract bats and the gcpd from saving dent and Rachel, then escaping using a piece of glass, just so he could mindrape harvey later in an even more convoluted hospital bomb plot, surpasses Silva's plan. Joker could have probably killed M at the hearing without having to use any tech whatsoever, given how he killed the judge and the commissioner. I'd say his plot to assassinate the mayor outranks Silva's plot.

But that's just me.

Yeah, it's just you.

And every other logical thinking person on the planet

Nope. It's just you. We agreed.

How is the Joker going to beat a guy with superior psychic powers? The guy predicted when and where everything would happen, and when and how everyone would react. Down to the second. Joker has good timing, but Silva's clairvoyant.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
How is the Joker going to beat a guy with superior psychic powers? The guy predicted when and where everything would happen, and when and how everyone would react. Down to the second. Joker has good timing, but Silva's clairvoyant.

Bull. The Reese/ hospital bomb plot was absolutely insane. No human being could have predicted everyone's actions like Joker did in that scenario.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Bull. The Reese/ hospital bomb plot was absolutely insane. No human being could have predicted everyone's actions like Joker did in that scenario.

He finds out Coleman is going to reveal Batman's identity. He plants a bomb in a hospital and threatens to blow it unless Reese dies. This is a diversion so he can use the panic to sneak into Dent's room, mindrape Dent into not killing him (and Dent had every reason to) and going on a rampage, escape, and take the newsreporters hostage, to reveal that the hospital bomb was just a diversion of itself to panic the citizens to get on the boats. He has 5 different plans, all of which are convoluted as hell and have no guarantee of success (as Dent could have just killed him), going off perfectly without a hitch simultaneously.

As I said, could the joker have assassinated M if he so chose? Most def. Could Silva create all the destruction joker created in Gotham? Hells no.