Well first and foremost, there wouldn't have been that many Superman films because the Avengers would have killed Luthor in the very first flick.
The Avengers would have a very hard time with Zod and Co. though. The team would put up a fight, but unless Tony discovers kryptonite, I don't see how the Avengers can stand up to 3 kryptonians. In fact, I don't see how Superman could have fought of the 3 kryptonians on his own.
As for Supes, he'd destroy Iron MOnger and Whiplash without batting an eye. He'd have a huge battle with Abomination but would eventually KO Abomination.
Then he'd get f*cked by Loki in Asgard. With all the magic floating around in Asgard, I don't see how Supes can withstand that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well first and foremost, there wouldn't have been that many Superman films because the Avengers would have killed Luthor in the very first flick.The Avengers would have a very hard time with Zod and Co. though. The team would put up a fight, but unless Tony discovers kryptonite, I don't see how the Avengers can stand up to 3 kryptonians. In fact, I don't see how Superman could have fought of the 3 kryptonians on his own.
As for Supes, he'd destroy Iron MOnger and Whiplash without batting an eye. He'd have a huge battle with Abomination but would eventually KO Abomination.
Then he'd get f*cked by Loki in Asgard. With all the magic floating around in Asgard, I don't see how Supes can withstand that.
Remember though superman is susceptible to actual magic. Thor makes a point of saying(in the movie anyway) that the magic asguardians use isn't really magic, its sciene. His exact words were i believe "where i come from they are one in the same" or it was something like the fact that we would call their science magic. I think hed be able to take LowKey on speed and strength. Not to mention his heat vision and ice breath.
Originally posted by omgchos
Remember though superman is susceptible to actual magic. Thor makes a point of saying(in the movie anyway) that the magic asguardians use isn't really magic, its sciene. His exact words were i believe "where i come from they are one in the same" or it was something like the fact that we would call their science magic. I think hed be able to take LowKey on speed and strength. Not to mention his heat vision and ice breath.
That doesn't take away the fact that what Loki used was actual magic. All that means is that we'll be able to eventually replicate their magic by means of science.
Still, Loki's magic is mystical in nature. You don't see him using some sort of hidden machines in his arms to create endless daggers. You don't see him using a hologram machine to create duplicates of himself. He just generates them.
LoL, retards.
Zod, Muteboy and Babydyke are all comparable to Reeve Superman. The guy who stopped tectonic plates from moving and then traveled back in time by flying really fast.
Zod could solo the Avengers, all three and it's a massacre.
Originally posted by Robtard
Zod could solo the Avengers, all three and it's a massacre.
True, but it's not really in Supermans character to just tear through his enemies.
CIS is pretty much the only reason Lex was a threat to him in the movies, and the same reason Loki could be one, if he resorts to his usual "intimidate/converse", instead of using Hulks approach.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Avengers would've easily beaten Superman Returns film. And any with Lex.
Superman 4 had Reeves struggle against Nuclear Man.You reckon the Avengers would defeat Nuclear Man?
Well, he does have a glaring weakness.
If they go in without a plan, obviously they get massacred, but give Stark and Banner prep, and they'll come up with something.
Originally posted by cdtm
True, but it's not really in Supermans character to just tear through his enemies.CIS is pretty much the only reason Lex was a threat to him in the movies, and the same reason Loki could be one, if he resorts to his usual "intimidate/converse", instead of using Hulks approach.
Yeah, Avengers could easily stop Lex in Superman.
Superman 2, they die horribly.
Superman 3, they win.
Superman 4, they probably lose unless they manage to get Nuclearman in some shadow.
Superman clears The Avengers film.
Originally posted by FrothByte
That doesn't take away the fact that what Loki used was actual magic. All that means is that we'll be able to eventually replicate their magic by means of science.
I think Thor is full of crap, but even on a logical level, your statement doesn't hold. magic = supernatural = beyond nature = not science. So Thor must really mean there is no such thing as magic (which I don't believe - but that's what you have to roll with on your position).
Either way, Loki is a noob, Thor jobs to him instead of just taking his head off with a hammer throw. Iron Man could take him, Superman won't have a problem especially with speed.
'Magic' in the non illusionary sense is just something that is, but science hasn't explained yet. (Like the magic of the sun rising and setting seemed to some in history)
Nothing is 'supernatural' for the same reason: If it happened in the universe, it must be within the parameters of the natural universe.
Thusly it should be referred to as 'paranormal' instead..
Im with you on the 'Superman kicking the shit out of Loki and Thor' thing.
Art doesn't make any claims...
There are things that are beyond what science cannot prove, that is why there is philosophy.
Anyway, even though Thor said that line once, I feel it was clearly not what the movie wanted to depict. Otherwise you'd have to believe Odin is really just a scientist who gave himself superpowers, but purposely made sure it looked like there was no tech involved. He also made sure that his super advanced society didn't have some of the "lower" tech stuff like, I dunno, transport vehicles, computers, Earth-grade military weapons etc.