Doom-Plutonian vs SBP & WWH

Doom swaps minds with the Plutonian. He gets 24 hours of prep to master his new abilities and then face off against Super Boy Prime and World War Hulk on a deserted planet. No bfr. Who wins?

Doom.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doom.

Plutonian's powerset + Doom's intellect = he wins.

WWH is practically a non-factor.

Originally posted by Nihilist
gets shitstomped I agree

This would essentially be a repeat of Void vs. Loki.

Doom wins.

WWH gets BFR'd or erased from existence, and SBP puts up a fight, but Plutonian is a beast of a different level, and Doom can utilize his God powers to a whole different level.

Originally posted by Galan007
This would essentially be a repeat of Void vs. Loki.

Doom wins.

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Normal Plutonian would be too much for WWH and could give Prime a decent fight, possibly even winning in some cases. And Tony was still understanding how to use his powers and learning. Considering Doom's track record when it comes to mastering stolen powers and the like (often in time far less than a 24 hour period) how he gets "shit stomped" is beyond me.

Doom mastered Wanda's Life Force reality manip powers in what, 5 minutes? It was just his body wasn't meant to handle it so no amount of mastery would help.

With 24 Hours under his belt, SBP dies.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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Normal Plutonian would be too much for WWH and could give Prime a decent fight, possibly even winning in some cases. And Tony was still understanding how to use his powers and learning. Considering Doom's track record when it comes to mastering stolen powers and the like (often in time far less than a 24 hour period) how he gets "shit stomped" is beyond me.

Tony had the raw power, but lacked the knowledge to use that power to its best. It was only when he began 'studying' under a human scientist who was able to teach him how to better use the exotic side of his powerset, that his powers began to grow astronomically. Give Doom those raw powers, and he wouldn't have to start with the basics like Tony did, because he already has knowledge/mastery of the basics, the intermediate, the advanced, and everything in between (ie. he'd not only have the raw the power, but he'd also have the knowledge to apply that power to his whim right off the bat.) His power/knowledge ratio would be off the charts-- well over 9,000. Additionally, the fact that Doom has stolen/held uber powers (several times) in the past, only helps him here. He already knows what to expect, and wouldn't be 'star struck' by teh powa like other feebs might be.

Regardless, it's worth noting that even with Tony's lack of knowledge, it still took a being channeling the power of entire starS (and burning them out) just to harm him-- and even then, he was purposefully holding back as to not hurt said baddie. The dude was a legit bad motherf*cker.

Point being: Doom stomps here.

I hate to admit this but Doom wins. Plutonian was getting punched so hard that solar systems was being destroyed as a side affect. No one is punching letting alone withstanding hits like that. Give Doom these powers and he becomes God like. Both WWH and Prime get two pieced.

No, no.

Solar systems were dying because the suns in those solar systems were being drained of all their energy (energy that was being used against Tony.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Exactly.

Tony had the raw power, but lacked the knowledge to use that power to its best. It was only when he began 'studying' under a human scientist who was able to teach him how to better use the exotic side of his powerset, that his powers began to grow astronomically. Give Doom those raw powers, and he wouldn't have to start with the basics like Tony did, because he already has knowledge/mastery of the basics, the intermediate, the advanced, and everything in between (ie. he'd not only have the raw the power, but he'd also have the knowledge to apply that power to his whim right off the bat.) His power/knowledge ratio would be off the charts-- well over 9,000. Additionally, the fact that Doom has stolen/held uber powers (several times) in the past, only helps him here. He already knows what to expect, and wouldn't be 'star struck' by teh powa like other feebs might be.

Regardless, it's worth noting that even with Tony's lack of knowledge, it still took a being channeling the power of entire starS (and burning them out) just to harm him-- and even then, he was purposefully holding back as to not hurt said baddie. The dude was a legit bad motherf*cker.

Point being: Doom stomps here.

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Plutonian on his own is a nasty mofo. Giving Doom his power set and way too much time to master his powers (a full day? 😐 ) is like putting a fifth grader and a sixth grader against a college linebacker.

Yup. Tony only understood his powers on a basic(perhaps intermediate) level, yet he was still able to rack up some insane feats. His powerset was based on comprehension-- the more he understood about how to use his powers, the better he was able to use them. For instance: as long as he knew that he had to combine hydrogen and oxygen to make water, he could whip up a lake. Etc.

Doom is smarter than everyone in the Irredeemable-verse combined. Giving him Tony's near-limitless ability to manipulate matter/energy, along with time to acclimate himself with said powers, makes him... Well... Too much for Hulk and Prime to handle, to say the least.

When he was still learning, didn't he force his way back through time after that prisoner punched him backwards a few hundred/thousand years?

Hm, I don't remember that one off hand. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.

They were fighting a prisoner whose punches were so powerful they sent people careening through time. And Tony rushed in, got knocked into a wormhole, then came back a bit later I believe.

Cool. I must've missed that.

Doom has some new b***hes, plus Doom still has knowledge of magic spells that pretty up there, plus with tony powers, yeah SBP and WWH get stomp so hard, they will commit suicide to end the fight.

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