Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor hasn't beaten hulk unless you count a brief KO as a win for thor. Yeah, Avengers vs Atlas and LTBB disagree.
Brief KO? Hulk was out longer than Thor was when Hulk smashed him into the ground after being shocked that Longhair was still conscious.
In any case, Thor has clearly beaten the Hulk and Hulk's "domination" over Thor is usually (though not always) plot dependent.
Originally posted by -Pr-
So the mod ruling, and the general rules, just flew over everyone's head, did they?
Naah, everything Ive stated was done in the WWH arc. Forgot to add both Storm (using her lightning to the fullest) and Human Torch (going Nova) poured down their powers on Hulk until the both of them Collapsed. Crazy thing is, he didn't even have a scratch afterwards.
On Topic: Yeah, there was jobbing in WWH. Not sure how it can be argued against. That said, we still saw Hulk's physicality and recovery ability and Pak, whether you like it or not, basically no sold every low showing and defeat Hulk has ever had by retroactively claiming he "held back". Guy basically trashed Banner/Hulk as a character for the sake of feats, but those feats are impressive.
Green Scar would beat Gladiator the phuck up.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor has defeated Hulk, don't think anyone is denying that (except AHBI) and he was koed for a bit. Hell, Thor was able to lift him off the ground and carry him through a worm hole. Its a legit knock out and a win for Thor. Current Hulk is a different beast though.
Indestructible Hulk?
He's tough, but he seems tame enough in comparison to Pak's Hulk.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Indestructible Hulk?He's tough, but he seems tame enough in comparison to Pak's Hulk.
I agree. I cant picture Classic Hulk running through Attuma and his army the way Hulk did, "with ease". The guy hasn't even been scratched yet and Hickman is showcasing him as well. In the recent Avengers, he still called Indestructible Hulk "World Breaker".
Originally posted by carver9
I agree. I cant picture Classic Hulk running through Akuma and his army the way Hulk did, "with ease". The guy haven't even been scratched yet and Hickman and showcasing him as well. In the recent Avengers, he still called Indestructible Hulk "World Breaker".
Akuma? wat
Or do you mean Attuma?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ah, okay. Yeah, Akuma would Instant Hell Murder Hulk. 👆Yeah, Waid's Hulk is tough, and he's certainly tough under Hickman, but he's a significant step below the insanity that was Pak's fanboy fueled penning.
Similarly, Aaron's Thor isn't as apeshit insane as Fraction's.
I agree. I think Pak and Waid are/were focusing on different aspects of the Hulk. Waid seems like he is focusing more on Hulks speed and durability (don't even think Hulk under Waid has done anything with his healing factor yet) whereas Pak was focusing more on Hulks strength and healing factor. The only thing we are missing from Waid Hulk is his limitation. We haven't seen a cap on him yet and the same can be said about WWH.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Can someone explain to me exactly how Gladiator is going to win?Exactly what can he do to stop Hulk? Punching him won't work, heat vision and cold breath are a bust. His best bet is to try and battle field remove Hulk by throwing him to the Sun or something but he literally tried and failed to do this in their fight. Hulk can be slow and brutish or very fast when he needs to be.
Anyways, he beats Gladiator to a pulp in the first fight, same outcome in the second unless Gladiator uses cbr tactics and flies at trans light speeds to maybe battle field remove Hulk (Not happening), the third fight is just spite.
Tbh, you switch any Hulk in for Green Scar (Barring like Grey) and Gladiator still gets beaten up in the first, can only win by battle field removal in the second, and would get anally raped sooner or later by an extremely enraged Hulk of any incarnation.
1. By beating WWH up with his fists.
2. HV can win the fight actually. Freeze breath can slow WWH down so that Gladiator can continue to beat the shit out of him.
3. Glads has speed on his side. So realistically he should beat WWH with no problems.
4. BFR through throwing Hulk in space is an easy win.
Re: World War Hulk vs Gladiator
Originally posted by TheHulk
1.Fist Fight
2.Both use their abilities
3.WWH Can go WB Mode(if needed) while Gladiator confidence is at a high level and cannot be broken and uses his abilities at best.
Sorry TheHulk, didn't see your 2nd stipulation at first. Guess I did rip off your thread... 😮
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Ah, okay. Yeah, Akuma would Instant Hell Murder Hulk. 👆Yeah, Waid's Hulk is tough, and he's certainly tough under Hickman, but he's a significant step below the insanity that was Pak's fanboy fueled penning.
Similarly, Aaron's Thor isn't as apeshit insane as Fraction's.
Raging demon >>> WBH. Fact!