World War Hulk vs Gladiator

Originally posted by -Pr-
If wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean.

If, if, if.

You go by Gladiator's personality and character, what he's likely to do in a fight, not what you'd like him to do. That sort of thing is reserved for tourneys.

I didn't say Glads will blitz Hulk from the get go and combo him to ko. That's what I believe he would do if he really existed but I'm not arguing that. I said he's much faster than Hulk. This is a fact. With being faster automatically gives you more hits than the other and more defenses against their attacks. Net result is Glads hitting Hulk more times than Hulk hits him. So if Glads is equally strong or stronger, more durable, and gets far more hits in on Hulk than Hulk gets on him then it makes perfect since he would win in a fist fight.

Everyone here is guilty of believing how a character would fight in their opinion (from Jake to Quanchi to Carver to Galan etc).
Everyone here differs in how the fight will go. If we didn't then there would be no such thing as a debate. That's why he have the forum rules of full capacity.

Lastly, Hulk can't fly. So Glads can bfr anything he wants in fight 2 or 3. Yet most here aren't seeing that and saying things far more silly than I.

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads does have superspeed. He uses it in comics. He has fought at lightspeed or beyond multiple times. I'm not making up something he doesn't do in comics. I'm using only things he has done in comics. If he did it in comics then it is in his personality to do, otherwise he wouldn't have done it.

I didn't say Glads will blitz Hulk from the get go and combo him to ko. That's what I believe he would do if he really existed but I'm not arguing that. I said he's much faster than Hulk. This is a fact. With being faster automatically gives you more hits than the other and more defenses against their attacks. Net result is Glads hitting Hulk more times than Hulk hits him. So if Glads is equally strong or stronger, more durable, and gets far more hits in on Hulk than Hulk gets on him then it makes perfect since he would win in a fist fight.

Everyone here is guilty of believing how a character would fight in their opinion (from Jake to Quanchi to Carver to Galan etc).
Everyone here differs in how the fight will go. If we didn't then there would be no such thing as a debate. That's why he have the forum rules of full capacity.

Lastly, Hulk can't fly. So Glads can bfr anything he wants in fight 2 or 3. Yet most here aren't seeing that and saying things far more silly than I.

I wasn't talking about him being fast.

And no, Gladiator isn't as strong as Hulk. He has impact durability, sure, but Hulk's HF makes up for it.

No, not everyone is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I wasn't talking about him being fast.

And no, Gladiator isn't as strong as Hulk. He has impact durability, sure, but Hulk's HF makes up for it.

No, not everyone is.

2. Glads can easily bfr anytime during the battle (not necessarily in the beginning but it could be in the end)

3. Same as 2

The term "Everyone" is figurative language and clearly not meant literally.
More than half of the members here have a skewed opinion on how their character will match up against another. Many have one character doing something while the other character sits there and watch and just lets it happen. Jake has Thor doing all types of rare stuff against a team of metas of such and exaggerates the things Thor would do and he is suppose to be the voice of reason here. Yet when you read 100 Thor comics you rarely see Thor do those things. Yet no one here sees that because of who Jake is.

Glads is stronger than most Hulks, this is debatable though I admit. Hulk's strength is variable. He can be anywhere from a little over Thing's strength to far over Thing's strength. He gets stronger the madder he gets. So to say someone is stronger than Hulk is misleading since you must clarify which Hulk you are referring to. WWH has no strength feats that puts him above Glads. So I would say they are equals or very close to equal.

WBH is another thing altogether though.

The tactics.

Even at base level, current Hulk is well above Thing. He's high herald class. He doesn't go in to the fight calm or anything.

hulk already beat gladiator, and he's more powerful than he was when he did it.

this is math, h1, you like math

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk already beat gladiator, and he's more powerful than he was when he did it.

this is math, h1, you like math

This.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk already beat gladiator, and he's more powerful than he was when he did it.

this is math, h1, you like math

Hulk beating Glads in a comic doesn't mean he would beat him in a forum fight. Otherwise there would be no reason to debate.

This is WWH not current Hulk. We can only use WWH feats to debate with.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The tactics.

Even at base level, current Hulk is well above Thing. He's high herald class. He doesn't go in to the fight calm or anything.

2. I didn't claim tactics here. Just that Glads has the bfr option whenever he wants to use it or needs to use it.

3. Same as two.

There is no such thing as calm or angry current hulk. He can change to Hulk without even getting mad nowadays. He can appear calm as Hulk too. So there is a calm Hulk (but strong one).

Based off current showings Thing is much more powerful than ever. I would say current Hulk (not going full WWH or WBH) is about several times stronger at base level (maybe 3 or 4 times by opinion). This is significant but not well over IMO.

So I disagree that Hulk is well above (that needs to be defined by the way) Thing at base. He's significantly above but not well above, whatever that means lol.

Assuming Glads could uppercut him in to space and that he can fight FTL, are examples of tactical thinking.

Calm but strong is fine. Calm but weak isn't.

Hulk is in the thousands/millions of tons range, just like all the top heralds. Proving Gladiator is stronger would be an uphill battle, tbh.

You think he's only four times stronger than a guy who's a low cl100?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Assuming Glads could uppercut him in to space and that he can fight FTL, are examples of tactical thinking.

Calm but strong is fine. Calm but weak isn't.

Hulk is in the thousands/millions of tons range, just like all the top heralds. Proving Gladiator is stronger would be an uphill battle, tbh.

You think he's only four times stronger than a guy who's a low cl100?

Why can't he uppercut Hulk into space? It's within his personality to do so and he doesn't even have to be thinking about it for it to occur. Many characters have uppercutted others into space on accident. They just were trying to punch the shiz out of them and all of a sudden the opponent is in space. Oops! He may not even do such a thing until he realizes he's in a losing battle. Or one of his attacks is a vicious uppercut that accidently lands Hulk in space.

Glads has fought or operated at FTL speeds multiple times in comics. I'm not even claiming he will fight Hulk at FTL speeds here. I'm using him doing it in comics as evidence that he will be a lot faster than Hulk in this fight. I didn't say what speed Glads was going to fight with, just that he will be a lot faster.

No one even thought about the existence of a calm weak Hulk. I'm confused of where you get that from. I never said such things or really think about such things.

I agree that Hulk is in the thousands of tons range at weakest or base level. Thing is at least currently in the mid hundreds of tons range now (if not more) though. In the past he was slight over a hundred tons. So about 4 times stronger seems reasonable for Hulk at base strength.

IMO, Glads is one of the strongest heralds when at his best. He's variable too just like Hulk though.

Even then I can accept they are close in strength (which is very reasonable).

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hulk is in the thousands/millions of tons range

Originally posted by psycho gundam
banner-hulk while calm braced the ceiling of the mountain dropped on the avengers which was like 150,000,000,000 tons and had to be tricked into getting madder to get stronger. savage hulk shattered mountains

Yes but that is not the strength range base Hulk is usually at in comics. That was an outlier or rarity. You know we are talking about Hulk at base strength. Hulk's strength is variable. It varies like a lottery. It could be suddenly high or low.

he's only at base when he's not fighting and is alone, when he's in a fight he is not at base any longer. it's not hard to understand

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's only at base when he's not fighting and is alone, when he's in a fight he is not at base any longer. it's not hard

You are making stuff up now. How do you know Hulk isn't sometimes at base when he's fighting? You know most of his fights in the past have him operating at most in the thousands of tons right?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
banner-hulk while calm braced the ceiling of the mountain dropped on the avengers which was like 150,000,000,000 tons and had to be tricked into getting madder to get stronger. savage hulk shattered mountains

lol yes, i know.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes but that is not the strength range base Hulk is usually at in comics. That was an outlier or rarity. You know we are talking about Hulk at base strength. Hulk's strength is variable. It varies like a lottery. It could be suddenly high or low.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he's only at base when he's not fighting and is alone, when he's in a fight he is not at base any longer. it's not hard to understand

I'm only invisible when nobody's watching.

Originally posted by Nihilist
since when was you able to recton a characters history.

John Cena? Eww.

Originally posted by -Pr-
John Cena? Eww.