Originally posted by Robtard
Not that it matters, it's still 100+ to 6.
It was only really shown to be around 30 confirmed DEs on screen including Voldy.
Originally posted by omgchos
Well the arrow she deflected went elswhere. As opposed to catching it and grinning like a badass.
Once he can see his arrows being deflected, he can just time them to explode mid-flight like flak rounds.
Originally posted by omgchos
Well the shield spell would almost deffinetly guard against the explosion.
I'd disagree. Especially since a "flak burst" would be out of timing for a wizard to deflect (it'd blow up before he'd think to raise his shield as it explodes before getting too close).
Originally posted by omgchos
Unless someone counted idk how we can say one way or the other. All i can say is that the mass Azkaban break out might have let SHIRTloads of them loose. But no movie feats i can think of besides the scene where voldy cracks the barrier.
I based my count on the mansion scene at DH. Unless it was explicitly mentioned that there were DEs outside the ones present there, that'd be the clpsest we got to an accurate count of em.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'd disagree. Especially since a "flak burst" would be out of timing for a wizard to deflect (it'd blow up before he'd think to raise his shield as it explodes before getting too close).I based my count on the mansion scene at DH. Unless it was explicitly mentioned that there were DEs outside the ones present there, that'd be the clpsest we got to an accurate count of em.
As to the count, i was always under the impression that those were, like, his top DE's and the Malfoys as it was their house. Tho Petigrew was there, so idk. Seems as tho he was a bit lacking if those were the only ones.
Originally posted by omgchos
I'd give you the, they dont see it coming, argument but depending on the distance they would most likely pop one up if they knew he was shooting at them. So it doesnt really matter if he times the explostion, as i think whether or not they know its coming seems to be the issue.As to the count, i was always under the impression that those were, like, his top DE's and the Malfoys as it was their house. Tho Petigrew was there, so idk. Seems as tho he was a bit lacking if those were the only ones.
From what I've seen in the movies, the shield seems to only deflect attacks they actively shield themselves from (save for the Hogwarts megashield, but that took prep to put up). Has there ever been an instance where the wand flick shieldi lasted longer? Also, has the shield ever blocked splash and explosive damage before? I can't remember. The Fiendfyre instance would be the closest one, bit that was more Potter conjuring up a thin water barrier (w/c wouldn't help much vs an explosion and shrapnel.
The mansion scene would be the most accurate count we can get, tho. DEs don't have to be an army for Voldy to be a threat, they have tons of minions that the seem to be able to utilize afforded to them by their resources.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'd disagree. Especially since a "flak burst" would be out of timing for a wizard to deflect (it'd blow up before he'd think to raise his shield as it explodes before getting too close).
I sort of agree with this. The explosion should create shrapnel that hits their legs. I don't think those shields they put up extend all the way to the legs.
Originally posted by Lestov16They know, they just won't admit it. Potter hate.
Get ripped to shreds by who? Thor will be AK-ed, Hulk will definitely be AKed, IM will be petrified, and BW, CA, and HE will be Fiendfyred.Harry and Co. survived because of a forcefield and then being able to fly away. The 3 humans do not have that advantage and Cap's Shield only protects them from one direction. They are bacon bits.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
From what I've seen in the movies, the shield seems to only deflect attacks they actively shield themselves from (save for the Hogwarts megashield, but that took prep to put up). Has there ever been an instance where the wand flick shieldi lasted longer? Also, has the shield ever blocked splash and explosive damage before? I can't remember. The Fiendfyre instance would be the closest one, bit that was more Potter conjuring up a thin water barrier (w/c wouldn't help much vs an explosion and shrapnel.The mansion scene would be the most accurate count we can get, tho. DEs don't have to be an army for Voldy to be a threat, they have tons of minions that the seem to be able to utilize afforded to them by their resources.
If we use the mansion scene we have to take into account the fight of the seven potters and all the DE's voldy seemed to kill when he got all pissed that harry got his gringots horcrux. Which is why the scene where they all stand around voldy and he face rolls the barrier is prolly the best count we can get.
Hey...why didn't anyone in Harry Potter go, "accio elder wand"? You know.....that is a massive PIS thingie.
I know accio only works if you strongly envision the object in your mind but that does not excuse why the Elder Wand was so hard to get...just call for it with accio.
I say that to say this: the wizards may be very veristile and powerful but they are kind of stupid and don't know how to use their magic in intelligent ways. Voldemort is pretty much a magical hippie: wanting to try all the magic out that everyone is afraid of.
I say that to say this: the Avengers still cannot touch the cloud form of the Death Eaters. They can will it from complete intangibility to fully tangible/part body...not really any beating that unless you have magic.
Originally posted by omgchos
Dumbledore did show that many a defensive spell can be used spur of the moment to blocka ll sorts of things. Like Voldys inexplicable dark magic attack(shades of YuGiOh) that turned into glass breaking/bombarding. We know that at the very lest shield spells are versatile. Tho Dumble is an extreme example of this as hes a badass and was the mater of the elder wand.If we use the mansion scene we have to take into account the fight of the seven potters and all the DE's voldy seemed to kill when he got all pissed that harry got his gringots horcrux. Which is why the scene where they all stand around voldy and he face rolls the barrier is prolly the best count we can get.
Well, I guess it can be argued either way how the shield would affect explosive arrows, tho using indirect fire (intentionally "missing" to the side and exploding the arow to the side of the target) would still be an option. /shrug DD is not only the wielder of the EW, tho, he's also not a DE and his knowledge and skill with magic rivals (or IMO exceeds to a degree) that of Voldy.
How do we get an accurate count on the assault on Hogwarts, tho? We don't know if those ppl in the background are DEs or simply minions (Snatchers, Werewolves, etc.)?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I say that to say this: the Avengers still cannot touch the cloud form of the Death Eaters. They can will it from complete intangibility to fully tangible/part body...not really any beating that unless you have magic.
That's been pretty solidly debunked.
See. Completely not a true thing.