Anyway the feat which every nova fan tries to paint as durability or strength feat is just a wormhole making feat, i.e the neutron star feat. Here worldmind directly states that it would create a wormhole if nova calculates his velocity correctly and bend its gravimetric field to create a wormhole
That's exactly what happened when nova reached near the neutron star
Nova didn't trigger the gravity quake by crashing into the neutron star, he triggered it by bending its gravity and creating a wormhole.
Tsk, tsk dmills and celeyhyga.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway the feat which every nova fan tries to paint as durability or strength feat is just a wormhole making feat, i.e the neutron star feat. Here worldmind directly states that it would create a wormhole if nova calculates his velocity correctly and bend its gravimetric field to create a wormholeThat's exactly what happened when nova reached near the neutron star
Nova didn't trigger the gravity quake by crashing into the neutron star, he triggered it by bending its gravity and creating a wormhole.
Tsk, tsk dmills and celeyhyga.
I was going to type an extended response. But this is actually perfect just like this...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman and mongul didn't kill it. It was smacking both of them around untill superman destroyed its machinery and then it left. Laughable logic in the first part though.
So that probe wasn't beaten and was he not the same probe that killed the Daxamite? If so then no herald being beat that particular probe.
Not at all. Superman ripped its hand from joint and immediately cauterized it. That was wonder woman with her indestructible shield who nearly died in that explosion.
No sure what your point was but basically I pointed out that it wasn't just one probe soloing everyone including Superman. It was two probes and I would hardly call it soloing Superman, Aquaman, and WW. He took them on, soloing two of them, but Superman wreck it when he got involved. If you solo a team and win or stalemate, it's something to brag about. Here that probe got destroyed. The Annihilator has about 6 guys while the probes fought a team that had plastic man and aquaman on it. So let's not get carried away and say a single probe would win or stalemate the Annihilators.
And brainiac 5's commentry that the probe was giving that team hell.
Lol. So in other words there isn't much showing Mordru's fight right? We see a probe and assume it's just one probe when the whole thing is an invasion. Mordru floats around and we'll take it as Mordru having a hard time. If it was just one probe doing that, then yes that probe is pretty powerful and would beat the Annihilators. But no way are your an average probe beating this team.
Zod was exact equal of superman holding back features included.
Dream on. Zod is not Superman. Aren't you the one complaining all that time about how Beta Ray Bill and Thor are not the same so Thor's feats don't apply to Bill's?
All of that involves context, but that's a foreign object to you it seems.
Context only applies when it suits you so of course you're familiar with its use.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No sure what your point was but basically I pointed out that it wasn't just one probe soloing everyone including Superman. It was two probes and I would hardly call it soloing Superman, Aquaman, and WW. He took them on, soloing two of them, but Superman wreck it when he got involved. If you solo a team and win or stalemate, it's something to brag about. Here that probe got destroyed. The Annihilator has about 6 guys while the probes fought a team that had plastic man and aquaman on it. So let's not get carried away and say a single probe would win or stalemate the Annihilators.
Team was done when Superman got there.
http://s673.beta.photobucket.com/user/galanphotos/media/probejla12.jpg.html
Also, losing to Superman doesn't diminish anyone, ever.
Lol. So in other words there isn't much showing Mordru's fight right? We see a probe and assume it's just one probe when the whole thing is an invasion. Mordru floats around and we'll take it as Mordru having a hard time. If it was just one probe doing that, then yes that probe is pretty powerful and would beat the Annihilators. But no way are your an average probe beating this team.What's the average? Above teams of top tiers, and weaker than Superman?
Where do you place the average? Based on these type of showings, and the incredible high? Where's the middle ground?
Dream on. Zod is not Superman. Aren't you the one complaining all that time about how Beta Ray Bill and Thor are not the same so Thor's feats don't apply to Bill's?
It -again- shows the vast difference in power once Supes goes all out.
See, you can try to twist them into being 'fodder' all you want, but they were only portrayed like that against an all out Superman and Doomsday.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was accessing Ion power at that time subconsciously.
I'm asking you to what degree did them amp do for him? Trans, skyfather, abstract, etc.
Hahaha, what? Superman was specifically powered up, aquman had a skyfather level weapon to pierce its hide when before an aromred up WW's battle axe did nothing to a probe, diana used her indestructible shield to cut a probe and nearly died, hippolyta was wearing gauntletS of atlas one of which increase the strength of wearer tenfolds and all she did was wrap the probe in lasso, it tore itself apart trying to get free.
In other words that amp wasn't much at all considering it's below a skyfather weapon and an indestructible shield. And a guantlet the increase Hippolyta's strength by tenfold plus the lasso is also more powerful than Kyle's Ion amp. Kyle did next to nothing and got whooped and badly too.
Kyle just after that contained a portion of big bang but that's what surfer does every sunday, right?
With the assistant of War World absorbing most of it's power to make Brainiac a threat. A shared feat for Kyle and we know he didn't do much because this is the same Kyle that couldn't even penetrate a probes armor while some WW shield did. Superman trying harder did as well. Yeah, Surfer could containing that too if War World was absorbing most of the Imperiex.
Of he does that every Sunday, took at beating from beings above skyfathers in tier then flier into the Crunch and drop it's power on those beings. He was battered but wasn't consumed by it while the Proemial Gods was engulf.
Feats, yes. Compared to their peers? Post all these feats of annihilators.
I posted Nova's then you whine about how the Canverse beings were fodders. If I posted the Sphinx with two Ka Stones, you whine about that too. Beta Ray Bill cracked Galactus' armor and stalemate Tanaraq.
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Your idol Thanos said "I'm afraid he would explode if he absorbed any more energy". He absorbed just a portion of the sun, not the whole sun.
Everyone in that list was amped beyond their usual pay grade and two of them nearly died while one actually died.
Everyone on that list was amped and still perform better than Kyle. Superman just punched harder as usual. 🙄
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway the feat which every nova fan tries to paint as durability or strength feat is just a wormhole making feat, i.e the neutron star feat. Here worldmind directly states that it would create a wormhole if nova calculates his velocity correctly and bend its gravimetric field to create a wormhole
Nova didn't trigger the gravity quake by crashing into the neutron star, he triggered it by bending its gravity and creating a wormhole.Tsk, tsk dmills and celeyhyga.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So that probe wasn't beaten and was he not the same probe that killed the Daxamite? If so then no herald being beat that particular probe.
No sure what your point was but basically I pointed out that it wasn't just one probe soloing everyone including Superman.The league was done when superman reached there.
It was two probes and I would hardly call it soloing Superman, Aquaman, and WW. He took them on, soloing two of them, but Superman wreck it when he got involved.Superman didn't wreck it. You are confusing fights.
If you solo a team and win or stalemate, it's something to brag about. Here that probe got destroyed.No
The Annihilator has about 6 guys while the probes fought a team that had plastic man and aquaman on it.It also had Ion amped kyle rayner , martian manhunter and wally west. Not to mention plastic man and aquaman are no slouches either. In fact aquaman took one imperiex probe's blast better than wonder woman.
So let's not get carried away and say a single probe would win or stalemate the Annihilators.Depends upon how they fight it.
Lol. So in other words there isn't much showing Mordru's fight right?Its more than enough.
We see a probe and assume it's just one probe when the whole thing is an invasion.What? If you think that the on panel proof and brainiac 5's commentary isn't enough? You must be really desperate.
Mordru floats around and we'll take it as Mordru having a hard time.We directly saw him conjuring a spell and brainy saying the probe gave the team hell.
If it was just one probe doing that, then yes that probe is pretty powerful and would beat the Annihilators. But no way are your an average probe beating this team.So any high showing from a probe is an outlier and only low showing count? Good logic.
Dream on. Zod is not Superman.He is as close as possible.
Aren't you the one complaining all that time about how Beta Ray Bill and Thor are not the same so Thor's feats don't apply to Bill's?I'm not taking feats from superman and transplanting them on Zod.
Context only applies when it suits you so of course you're familiar with its use.You already said you haven't read OWAW. Don't make anymore of an ass of yourself than you already did.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKingEnough to destroy high herald-trans level probes.
I'm asking you to what degree did them amp do for him? Trans, skyfather, abstract, etc.
In other words that amp wasn't much at all considering it's below a skyfather weapon and an indestructible shield.Great logic. That shield broke a probe's armor after superman already weakened its armor.
And a guantlet the increase Hippolyta's strength by tenfold plus the lasso is also more powerful than Kyle's Ion amp.Again great logic. A class 85 amped tenfold binding a probe with the indestructible lasso and probe tearing itself apart isn't a comparable showing to kyle's.
Kyle did next to nothing and got whooped and badly too.That isn't a low showing for kyle.
With the assistant of War World absorbing most of it's power to make Brainiac a threat.Brainiac only came into play after the shell of imperiex was totally broken. Your proof that kyle only contained a portion of the imperiex?
A shared feat for Kyle and we know he didn't do much because this is the same Kyle that couldn't even penetrate a probes armor while some WW shield did.LOL. Reaching much?
Superman trying harder did as well.Again with superman as a benchmark?
Yeah, Surfer could containing that too if War World was absorbing most of the Imperiex.He should start with something far smaller, earth's sun.
Of he does that every Sunday, took at beating from beings above skyfathers in tier then flier into the Crunch and drop it's power on those beings.He nearly died from four shots from two skyfather level gods and left for dead.
He was battered but wasn't consumed by it while the Proemial Gods was engulf.A normal superman has walked through all out magical attack from an Elder god which took out entire JLA.
I posted Nova's then you whine about how the Canverse beings were fodders.Because they were fodders.
If I posted the Sphinx with two Ka Stones, you whine about that too.Didn't do much anyway.
Beta Ray Bill cracked Galactus' armor and stalemate Tanaraq.BRB isn't in this thread.
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Everyone on that list was amped and still perform better than Kyle. Superman just punched harder as usual. 🙄Excellent logic as usual.
