One Imperiex Probe Vs The Annihilators

Originally posted by carver9
Don't forget about Wonder Woman mother taking two of them out by throwing a space ship to their dome piece.

Hippolyta barely registered as a threat to them while they both was building a city size hollower which they got half done in a very short amount of time. And then launched it to Earth. She had her powers increased during this with the Sandals of Hermes and the Gauntlet of Atlas with the Lasso was any reason she stood a chance at all (and Diana was battling the Probe also). 😕

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
What? And H/P DD as well? How'd you figure he was H/P?

He was the same that was taken from the end point of time where Waverider had BFRed him.

Then they used the JLA teleporters to keep him in constant flux.

Then the Suicide Squad broke him out.

He hadn't died in between, iirc, so he was the same as H/P.

Originally posted by kevdude
Hippolyta barely registered as a threat to them while they both was building a city size hollower which they got half done in a very short amount of time. And then launched it to Earth. She was had her powers increased during this with the Sandals of Hermes and the Gauntlet of Atlas with the Lasso was any reason she stood a chance at all (and Diana was battling the Probe also). 😕

Didnt u say imperiex killed a bunch of gods? What gods were these? 😕

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didnt u say imperiex killed a bunch of gods? What gods were these? 😕

Yeah he destroyed the Old Gods which is also called the Second World. We know Maggedon had a hand in the disaster as well.

Annihilators

Way one-sided on this match, as I too believe anyone on the Annihilators can solo one Imperiex Probe (some going all out, some not nearly so much). WWs Mothers and an Armored Aqauman each defeated a probe, and in the final battle Superman and Doomsday were taking probes down with relative ease.

Ronan isn't soloing a probe. Come one.

Originally posted by DTM
Way one-sided on this match, as I too believe anyone on the Annihilators can solo one Imperiex Probe (some going all out, some not nearly so much). WWs Mothers and an Armored Aqauman each defeated a probe, and in the final battle Superman and Doomsday were taking probes down with relative ease.

As for aquaman he was wielding the trident of Poseidon, a skyfather level weapon by which he pierced the probe. Any weapon less potent and they were completely un-affected like here WW wielding a magical battle axe and aquaman simultaneously attacking a probe get completely no sold.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probejla5.jpg

No one in the annihilators is going to solo a probe.

Originally posted by Galan007
I guess low feats (or at least what you guys perceive as low feats) are all that count where Probes are concerned, eh?

Forget the fact that a single Probe wrecked the combined JLA, which consisted of Wally, Dianna, J'onn, Plastic Man, Dianna, and pre-berserker Superman. A single Probe also stomped Mongul, Ignition, the Outsiders and Titans, Supergirl, Zod/his forces, Atlantis, etc. Forget the fact that not even Mordru+the Legion were able to defeat a single Probe. That shit doesn't matter.

@ABHI...

Wonder Woman did take out a probe though. The one that was fighting the JLA. She hit it in the back of the head with a shield ans ruptured the armor.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Was it actually said that Mordru couldn't destroy a Probe?

Assuming the team is allowed to 'go all out", this is a spite thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
No. What was stated is that Mordru+the Legion were meeting "fierce resistance" against a Probe:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14100272/1.jpg.html
That statement heavily implies that the Probe was giving the team one hell of a fight-- and considering I've seen Mordru own heralds(and beyond) pretty easily, that says a lot about a Probe's power, imo.

Honest question here for you, Galan.

Considering we all know for a fact that sometimes teams can job or underperform - especially considering some of the feats performed by characters when by themselves - would that in any way effect the Probe's standing as a whole, iyo?

Personally, I find it a bit on the lower end of Mordru's capabilities to display him struggling with a single Probe by himself, let alone backed by the Legion (namely for the reasons you've already stated).

I'm all for considering a single Probe to be a High Herald at the least, possibly trans, but Mordru struggling with one - with back up no less - doesn't sit right with me, honestly.

My opinion...

Just because teams often under-preform, doesn't mean that was the case here-- especially since that notion isn't supported by the limited information we were given. I mean, we know beings in lower tiers can compete fairly well with beings in higher tiers-- Iron Man has been doing that for most of his career. Other good examples are Odin/Galactus, or Thanos/Odin. Sure there were clear winners in the end, but that doesn't mean the losers didn't put up a good fight overall.

Mordru, for instance, is typically considered a Skyfather. If the Probes are trans-level (which, imo, they seem to be) then they could logically put up a damn good fight, but would ultimately be beaten. If the Probes were heralds, they'd be gestured away by a Skyfather.

Essentially I'm just using that scene as further proof why the Probes should be considered trans-level. I'm not trying to make them more than what they are.

👆

Fair enough.

If each probe was "trans-tier" does that mean when Superman and Doomsday destroyed dozens of them, SM/DD were elite skyfater level?

Or does it mean that the probes jobbed?

A berserker Superman is abstract, bro.

Originally posted by Galan007
My opinion...

Just because teams often under-preform, doesn't mean that was the case here-- especially since that notion isn't supported by the limited information we were given. I mean, we know beings in lower tiers can compete fairly well with beings in higher tiers-- Iron Man has been doing that for most of his career. Other good examples are Odin/Galactus, or Thanos/Odin. Sure there were clear winners in the end, but that doesn't mean the losers didn't put up a good fight overall.

Mordru, for instance, is typically considered a Skyfather. If the Probes are trans-level (which, imo, they seem to be) then they could logically put up a damn good fight, but would ultimately be beaten. If the Probes were heralds, they'd be gestured away by a Skyfather.

Essentially I'm just using that scene as further proof why the Probes should be considered trans-level. I'm not trying to make them more than what they are.

Mordru was having help and still the Probe was doing very well against him and the others. Wouldn't that put the Probe > Mordru? Or a bit above him?

Originally posted by Galan007
My opinion...

Just because teams often under-preform, doesn't mean that was the case here-- especially since that notion isn't supported by the limited information we were given. I mean, we know beings in lower tiers can compete fairly well with beings in higher tiers-- Iron Man has been doing that for most of his career. Other good examples are Odin/Galactus, or Thanos/Odin. Sure there were clear winners in the end, but that doesn't mean the losers didn't put up a good fight overall.

Mordru, for instance, is typically considered a Skyfather. If the Probes are trans-level (which, imo, they seem to be) then they could logically put up a damn good fight, but would ultimately be beaten. If the Probes were heralds, they'd be gestured away by a Skyfather.

Essentially I'm just using that scene as further proof why the Probes should be considered trans-level. I'm not trying to make them more than what they are.

I think most of what you say here is fair and logical.. I would just add one thing and variable not stated... Mordru... has, at times been shown to be less than Skyfather level as well. So, him being let's say Trans level.. would mean a herald could give him a fight.. moving down the scale you put up. Thus, it could also prove that probes were high herald level as well IF Mordru was operating at lower levels.