Slade Gauntlet. Grip Strength Challenge.

Started by Silent Master8 pages

Or, that scene was pure PIS.

To reflect some of the new information I've come across in this thread,
I'll give this slightly revised edition of the original. Note that this is the URL edition, the post with actual click-able links immediately follows.

Slade Gauntlet.
Grip Strength Challenge.

No strikes or tripping allowed.
Contestants must maintain handholds on each other at all times.
Ring is 10 feet in diameter.

Win is accrued by any proof of pure physical strength superiority,
i.e. forcing a ring out, forcing opponents hands behind their back despite their active resistance, breaking the bones of the opponents hand, submission, etcetera.

Contest inspired by the following:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105504
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105497
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105483

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105236
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107037

How far can Slade progress against the following line-up?
Can he clear?

01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)

04. Deadpool

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105053

06. Bane (non-juiced)

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105059

08. Harley Quinn
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14090226
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106977
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106989

09. Captain America
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106941
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107026

10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106318
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106786
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106788
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106794

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106816
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106821
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13948936

Bonus Round:

Slade gets to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Can he clear these 5 opponents?

11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14073549

15. Kingpin (enraged)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106391
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106398

Slade Gauntlet.
Grip Strength Challenge.

Click-able link version.

No strikes or tripping allowed.
Contestants must maintain handholds on each other at all times.
Ring is 10 feet in diameter.

Win is accrued by any proof of pure physical strength superiority,
i.e. forcing a ring out, forcing opponents hands behind their back despite their active resistance, breaking the bones of the opponents hand, submission, etcetera.

Contest inspired by the following:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105504
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105497
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105483

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105236
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107037

How far can Slade progress against the following line-up?
Can he clear?

01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)

04. Deadpool

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105053

06. Bane (non-juiced)

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105059

08. Harley Quinn

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14090226
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106977
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106989

09. Captain America

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106941
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107026

10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106318
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106786
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106788
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106794

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106816
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106821
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13948936

Bonus Round:

Slade gets to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Can he clear these 5 opponents?

11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14073549

15. Kingpin (enraged)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106391
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106398

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
hmm

Does Cap have anything to match or top Kingpin's shoving match here ... ?

I don't think Steve can exactly match that one. But he has some impressive ones.

Cap while disguised as Crossbones holds off superhuman Maddog.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/551/captainamerica41116cp1.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/751/captainamerica41117fa5.jpg

Here he holds off the arms of Octowoman
http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretwar41314zh0.jpg

Here he catches USAgents punch. Agent is around 10 ton strength.

Lady Octopus.

Cracking Crimson Dynamo's armor without using his shield is nice, too.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yes.

That's just some thin scaffolding.

Steve has ripped off the arms of large robots.

He has uprooted multi-ton statues from the ground while being chained to them.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not.

A lot a cap feats are amped by "calculations" and random assertions of posters around here. Statue feat, car dragging broken axle, "helicopter pull", etc. I've also heard frequently that slade has no "real" strength feats because they dont meet some fashioned criteria, but thats just kmc...

That same logic applies to when you calculate for Slade. At least Cap is consistent.

Dcnu slade has been pretty consistant as of late. His nth armir also boosts his stats.

Stops at Deadpool. Come at me.

HFless DP would be weaker.

Supposed to, but he wasnt. Also his HF is back already.

Originally posted by SamZED
Supposed to, but he wasnt. Also his HF is back already.

Got it from Wolverine, same rules apply. But it probably takes time/maybe outside factors for the amped strength to fade away.

Blocking Moonstone's punch is more impressive than breaking Gay Lantern's hand.

Originally posted by SamZED
Stops at Deadpool. Come at me.

Alright ...

Participation has been fairly active here; let's see where an elimination-style format leads...

Win is accrued by any proof of pure physical strength superiority,
i.e. forcing a ring out, forcing opponents hands behind their back despite their active resistance, breaking the bones of the opponents hand, submission, etcetera.

Contest inspired by the following:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105504
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105497
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105483

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105236
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107037

How far can Slade progress against the following line-up?
Can he clear?

01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)

-- lost to de-powered Superman in Infinite Crisis in fist fight

04. Deadpool

-- Wikipedia suggests that, at his debut, Wade may have had some measure of superhuman strength; retconned soon afterward

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)

-- normal human, albeit peak human
-- has lost to Slade in physical combat; several times if memory serves

06. Bane (non-juiced)

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105059

-- jury's still out here; based on the feat above, Wally MAY have the lower body strength to force a ring out ...

08. Harley Quinn

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14090226
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106977
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106989

-- regarded Killer Croc as her superior; seem to remember a juiced Bane taking out Killer Croc ... looking to see something that objectively places Killer Croc's strength in this chart before doing anything with Harley
-- also, looking for specs on the "whammer" (giant hammer) device
If only ordinary object of great size, weight, and durability, safe-breaking swing easily ranks on or above Slade's heavy metal door kick-down feat.

09. Captain America

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106941
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107026

-- seen enough on this guy to feel comfortable having placed him as one of the final 3 regular "gates" for Slade ... Not sure if he actually outranks Harley or not, again, need to see either more feats from him, or something that places where Killer Croc would rate in this thread and against Cap, and thus a reasonably good estimate of where Harley really rates.

10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106318
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106786
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106788
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106794

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106816
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106821
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13948936

-- still the top regular choice. Seems to have proportionally more strength feats to # of appearances than Cap and consistently higher ones as well. Even Cap supporters admit Cap has nothing to match the wall push he demonstrated in an active shoving match with Spider-man, and Kingpin, unlike Cap, REGULARLY used to match Spidey in such grappling contests

Bonus Round:

Slade gets to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Can he clear these 5 opponents?

11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

-- heard this guy could actually lift 10 tons??
where?? why??

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14073549

-- placed here because I seem to remember Osborn actually beating Kingpin in a physical altercation.
Think that was the TV series, though ... and writers played fast and loose with the strength levels of characters there (Black CAT with might enough to bend 3-inch thick steel doors??)
Goblin is rated high, though, not only for his showing here, but because Spider-man remarked on the heightened strength of his successor, Hobglobin.
Spider-man also commented on the LACK of strength of his son, Harry Osborn, as Green Goblin, who had not, at the point of that particular story, taken the Goblin physique-enhancing serum.

15. Kingpin (enraged)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106391
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106398

Originally posted by SamZED
Stops at Deadpool. Come at me.

Current elimination list.
Starred selections will be next to go unless someone presents defense or good argument against Slade taking them.

Single asterisk (*) = to be struck from list on next posting
Double asterisk (*) = to be struck from list after people have had at least 48 hours to contest

01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)*

Reason(s) will be struck:

-- lost to de-powered Superman in Infinite Crisis in fist fight
Based on how he's done in physical re-training drills with Bruce in various comics, Superman, de-powered, is below the strength level of Batman, whom Slade has easily physically taken

04. Deadpool**

-- Wikipedia suggests that, at his debut, Wade may have had some measure of superhuman strength; retconned soon afterward

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)

06. Bane (non-juiced)**

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)**

08. Harley Quinn

09. Captain America

10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)

Bonus Round:

Slade has the option to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Does he need them?

If he uses said gloves, does he fully clear?

11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)

15. Kingpin (enraged)

Your Wally's feat has him using his super speed ermm

Originally posted by Daredevil1
That same logic applies to when you calculate for Slade. At least Cap is consistent.
never do.

Consistent is the opposite of what cap highest strength feats are. They are his only feats consistently cited as if they are the norm though.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Current elimination list.
Starred selections will be next to go unless someone presents defense or good argument against Slade taking them.

Single asterisk (*) = to be struck from list on next posting
Double asterisk (*) = to be struck from list after people have had at least 48 hours to contest

01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)*

Reason(s) will be struck:

-- lost to de-powered Superman in Infinite Crisis in fist fight
Based on how he's done in physical re-training drills with Bruce in various comics, Superman, de-powered, is below the strength level of Batman, whom Slade has easily physically taken

04. Deadpool**

-- Wikipedia suggests that, at his debut, Wade may have had some measure of superhuman strength; retconned soon afterward

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)

06. Bane (non-juiced)**

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)**

08. Harley Quinn

09. Captain America

10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)

Bonus Round:

Slade has the option to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Does he need them?

If he uses said gloves, does he fully clear?

11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)

15. Kingpin (enraged)


Fair enough.

Deadpool's strength is generally understimated. But there are other factors to be taken into concideration here. It's a gauntlet so Slade will be somewhat tired by the time he gets to DP. Another factor is skill. As long as we're talking about grabbing/pushing etc.. Deadpool was trained by one of worlds greatest sumo fighter. Eventually Deadpool got so good he started treating his former master like an annoying stepchild.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/2205464deadpoolteamuppa.jpg/

Now for strength. Deadpool might not be superhuman like Spider-man or Sabertooth but he's got some superhuman strength feats and was referred to as superhuman.

Here he throws Peter Parker many feet through the air using one hand:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3056/cdp242006streetsamuraid.png

Another shot at Spider-man, not bad concidering he's trying to resist the mindcontrol:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/avengingspiderman13theg.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/avengingspiderman13theg.jpg/

Not the only time he displayed impressive level of strength. Here he leaps on top of a very tall building. Does it with ease and only two leaps:
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/0905/8d/cf665faad759.jpg
Notice that the tower on the background is now well below him.

Now for that "breaking GL fingers" thing. Deadpool is strong enough to snap some guy's neck using only two fingers:
http://s58.radikal.ru/i159/0905/77/f570e4f8001f.jpg
Its stated on-panel that it takes superhuman level of strength.

Just worming up.
Here we see Deadpool effortlessly catch Captain America's shield, a feat only few were able to perform:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/cap6v.jpg/
Cap is shocked for a moment.

Speaking of Cap, here we see one of DP's latest fights with Captain America. This is one royally pissed off Deadpool but he's still holding back willingly taking all the punches and asking for more. Grabs Steve by the throat, lifts him above the ground and strangles him using only one hand:
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7188/dpcap8.jpg

Deadpool's locked up in an asylum. Poor inmates...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/dp42oroboroscps014.jpg/

4 MI6 agents try to pin him down:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/agents1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/agents2.jpg/
Good luck with that.

Wade is strong enough to punch Moon Knight through a wall:
http://s980.beta.photobucket.com/user/ankur2292/media/VengeanceofMoonKnight07pg11copy.jpg.html#/user/ankur2292/media/VengeanceofMoonKnight07pg11copy.jpg.html?&_suid=13543011365110857494471942704
He did it twice actually second time sending MK flying many feet through the air and then through a wall. Sadly don't have the second scan on me.

There's more. Drops Goliath with a kick:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9979/scan0006.png
Although it can be argued its more of a skill feat.

Catches a punch thrown by Wolverine:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/813/deadpool51thegroup013.jpg/

Nearly breaks Taskmaster's jaw with a hit.. while handcuffed and leggcuffed:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4845/tm6u.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1377/tm7.png
Taskmaster comments on how strong Wade hits. And that's coming from a guy who's taken hits from Captain America, Elektra, Spider-man etc..

Kicks Colossus off balance apparently knocking him off the roof:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2594/deadpool180018.png

vs Daredevil and Silver Sable:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6268/silversable2315.jpg

B!tchslaps Wild Child sending him flying through the air:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5044/wildchildx.png

Pins down Warpath (the guy's superhuman):
http://s5.beta.photobucket.com/user/CATMANEXE/media/DPOOL/hulk15/Hulk15018.jpg.html#/user/CATMANEXE/media/DPOOL/hulk15/Hulk15018.jpg.html?&_suid=135430216523503540194284237007

Kicks Cable's head through a wall:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/934/xforce01509.jpg
He's done a simillar thing with a class 100 Doc Samson, dont have that scan on me.

Breaks Madcap's neck with a punch. 180.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/729/madcap.jpg

And that's excluding somewhat PISy feats he has like catching a punch thrown by Moonstone (she's Ms. Marvel strong) and almost breaking her hand:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3015/msmarvel041page016.jpg

...or carrying a hugeass bomb over a hill:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6571/dptu889legioncps016.jpg

Summing up.. Deadpool is pretty damn strong. Im not going to get into the whole "who's stronger? Him or Slade" argument but I think I made it somewhat believable that it's a good fight. And concidering Slade will be already tired.. that brings me back to my original post:

Originally posted by SamZED
Stops at Deadpool.
Originally posted by SamZED
(she's Ms. Marvel strong)

Not really. But she's pretty strong, true. Overall, good post.

Also nice to see Spidey's web dome in comics.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not really. But she's pretty strong, true. Overall, good post.

Also nice to see Spidey's web dome in comics.

My bad. But she's still way out of his league. Heck she's way out of Spider-man's league physically. Also im not sure if Doc Samson is class 100 or 80-90?

Depends. We need to consider the length of his hair during that time, for example. Marvel database has him at 70 tons, but we all know those internet bios and handbooks are not as reliable as the actual comic book panels.

Vision was wanking Samson when he offered him to join the Avengers.