Collossus vs Lady Death Strike

1. Lds doesn't use rectractable claws
2. Lds uses claws

Who wins in each of the above ?

1. Colossus, of course.

2. Yuriko for the majority.

Without retractable claws is something of a gigantic disadvantage. That's only winnable if she can talk him into going flesh.

Or maybe via pressure points, in view of the fact that Piotr is vulnerable to them even in his armored form...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Or maybe via pressure points, in view of the fact that Piotr is vulnerable to them even in his armored form...

would that even work on him?

Colossus don't even have a heartbeat or the need to breathe so don't know if that's a viable tactic.

Ogun pressure pointed him, but Ogun on a different level than Lady D.

Can Lady D hurt Colossus with her claws even?

They are Adamantium, so yes.

but not even 616 Wolverine can claim to seriously cut/hurt Colossus sans Hellverine.

Originally posted by -K-M-
but not even 616 Wolverine can claim to seriously cut/hurt Colossus sans Hellverine.

Wolverine's never serious cut / hurt Black Widow either... doesn't mean he can't.

Piotr and Logan have never had a real fight outside of Helverine (who cut up Colossus like he was made of rice paper), other than that Wolverine has only scored him with glancing blows. If Wolverine ever connected cleanly with Colossus, possessed by demons or otherwise, he'd cleave right through him.

Hellverine was in no way amped either.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Ogun pressure pointed him, but Ogun on a different level than Lady D.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hellverine was in no way amped either.

I'm sure being a class 10 made a huge difference, because as well all know Adamantium's cutting ability is directly proportional to the strength of the wielder. That's why Wolverine routinely fails to do damage with his claws, because he lacks the strength... oh wait... that's not even remotely accurate.

Adamantium weapons have intrinsic armor pen. Anyone who lacks true invulnerability will be damaged by them the same as if they were a regular human.

So being stronger wouldn't have helped him then?

Or the other shit he did in that series...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So being stronger wouldn't have helped him then?

Or the other shit he did in that series...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So being stronger wouldn't have helped him then?

Or the other shit he did in that series...

Why would it? Armor pen is an innate property of Adamantium, it essentially multiplies the defense of anything it encounters by zero. There is nothing to suggest that there are vary degrees of difficulty when cutting something with an Adamantium weapon. We've seen demonstration on panel dozens of times that Wolverine can stab Gladiator and Mangog just as easily as he does Punisher. What possible difference could a strength bump make at that level? True invulnerability and force fields are the only thing thing that can turn his claws.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Why would it? Armor pen is an innate property of Adamantium, it essentially multiplies the defense of anything it encounters by zero. There is nothing to suggest that there are vary degrees of difficulty when cutting something with an Adamantium weapon. We've seen demonstration on panel dozens of times that Wolverine can stab Gladiator and Mangog just as easily as he does Punisher. What possible difference could a strength bump make at that level? True invulnerability and force fields are the only thing thing that can turn his claws.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Nope, a baby can do the same damage with a adamantium knife that Superman can.

also, Wolverine landing a hook on Mangog only managed to go in a few inches...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
also, Wolverine landing a hook on Mangog only managed to go in a few inches...

A panel is a single snap shot in time, for all we know his claws continued in after that moment. 😎

Adamantium can cut through virtually anything, and Wolverine has carved up more durable beings than Colossus with minimal effort. Saying a non amped Wolverine can't cut Colossus is absurd, all you can say is that he hasn't... yet.

Logan might just to get a good shot on him is all. I recall Hellverine's first attack just bounced off him. But then Logan came back with his body on fire and then he was able to cut Colossus iirc.