He was strong enough to not be overpowered by Mina, who herself had super strength to some degree at least. And to incapacitate him would be taking whoever tackled him out of the fight. And that would also leave that person a pretty easy target for Quartermain or Sawyer There's also the fact that he has a sword that he is insanely skilled and fast with(fought with Mina pretty evenly), so they'd have to not get stabbed first.
Originally posted by KingD19
He was strong enough to not be overpowered by Mina, who herself had super strength to some degree at least. And to incapacitate him would be taking whoever tackled him out of the fight. And that would also leave that person a pretty easy target for Quartermain or Sawyer There's also the fact that he has a sword that he is insanely skilled and fast with(fought with Mina pretty evenly), so they'd have to not get stabbed first.
Not saying WM wins, just saying that tackle/pin would be a viable incap strat against Dorian as nothing else would prolly work. 😛
I get what you mean. And I agree, tackling him to the ground if one of the Watchmen managed to make it past his guard would effectively take him out of the fight for as long as they could hold him.
But that's probably worse for them than it is for the League. As the League still has a super fast and skilled regen in Mina, and eventually whoever's trying to keep him down(having taken themselves out of the fight as well) will get tired from Dorian constantly struggling. He doesn't get tired though. And there's still the fact that Quartermain and Sawyer are excellent snipers and anyone whose not in constant motion is a target.
Originally posted by KingD19
Dorian was amazing with his sword, and he seemed to be able to ignore pain, as well as any injuries healing in moments. There's nothing they can do to keep him down. He'll outlast everyone on that team.And how is Veidt going to take them down. Throw his bullet riddled corpse at them? He caught one bullet from some random thug, but these guys are two trained marksman and there's no way he's dodging/catching multiple rifle rounds.
Oh yeah. Just looked it up. She holds the revolver at him for a few seconds, giving him ample time to calculate her aim, then he catches it.
And in the fight with Chess, he's obviously a horrible shot. First bullet goes through that lady's shin and is roughly a foot away from Adrian. And Veidt had people between him and Chess. The people got shot instead as he was essentially using them as human shields. The hit is impressive, but him not getting killed by a poor shot isn't as impressive as you're trying to make it sound.
Originally posted by KingD19
Oh yeah. Just looked it up. She holds the revolver at him for a few seconds, giving him ample time to calculate her aim, then he catches it.And in the fight with Chess, he's obviously a horrible shot. First bullet goes through that lady's shin and is roughly a foot away from Adrian. And Veidt had people between him and Chess. The people got shot instead as he was essentially using them as human shields. The hit is impressive, but him not getting killed by a poor shot isn't as impressive as you're trying to make it sound.
Originally posted by KingD19
Still doesn't change that he would have gotten shot if that girl and the old man weren't between him and Chess.And Quartermain can essentially quick draw with his rifle, while Sawyer has revolvers as well as a rifle. Veidt can't stand up against two different sources of bullets.
Originally posted by marwash22
When did Ozy catch a bullet?edit: nevermind. that wasn't even impressive.
He'd be dead if she actually shot at him with a purpose.
Originally posted by omgchosokay?
Moving his arm fast enough to put it between him and the bullet. And he didnt move his arm until the hammer dropped. Thats upwards of 600 fps. Even if its just his arms we have a benchmark.
i argued none of those points and my comment stands... it wasn't THAT impressive and she could have killed him if she didn't give him a crap load of time to prepare for the shot.
If you're trying to suggest that Ozy can move the rest of his body at 600fps, you're outta your goddamn mind 'cause he never displayed such speed in the movie. You're also crazy if you think he can just step through rifle fire.
Originally posted by marwash22
okay?i argued none of those points and my comment stands... it wasn't THAT impressive and she could have killed him if she didn't give him a crap load of time to prepare for the shot.
If you're trying to suggest that Ozy can move the rest of his body at 600fps, you're outta your goddamn mind 'cause he never displayed such speed in the movie. You're also crazy if you think he can just step through rifle fire.
No i never said he could say run faster than a speeding bullet, but im talking reaction speed here. He dodged Kovacs without even looking at him. He closed the gap between him and chess, and between him and Blake in absurdley short amounts of time. Blake being alot faster and better than chess at everything. He even caught a knife thrown by Blake, by the handle no less. Hes gonna easily take out take outh the two "gunslingers" here. Sawyer admitedly 20 times easier than quatermain, but that doesnt really matter much.
Originally posted by KingD19
Him catching that bullet revolved around the 10 or so seconds she took to try and shoot him.During that time he had ample opportunity to calculate the bullet trajectory based on her aim. If she'd just raised and shot, he wouldn't have caught it as Mar said.
ozy catching that bullet is a pretty irrelevant feat against the ppl with actual super powers. sure the watchmen easily put down the normal members of the league. but hyde will take out a least one dude if not the whole team himself. he isnt as slow as one would think. you have to remember the watchmen are already outnumbered. they have no way of stopping dorian unless somebody sits on him. which puts another guy outa the fight. plus dorian is no chum in a fight where he would let someone sit on him. he evenly matched mina in combat. i dont think they could put down mina either. add in skinner and well i dont see how they could loose. do bullets even work on hyde?
Re: League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs The Watchmen
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
First and foremost, Dr. Manhattan is not in this fight. That would make it spite.OK, so the LXG and the Watchmen square off in Times Square, to the death.
Team LXG:
Alan Quartermain (armed with a repeating rifle and two revolvers)
Tom Sawyer (same as Quartermain)
Dorian Grey
Mina Harker (in Vampire form)
Rodney Skinner
Captain Nemo (Armed with his sword)
Dr. Henry Jekyll / Edward Hyde (In Hyde form)Team Watchmen (they have all their weapons from their movie, save Nite Owl's ship):
Ozymandias
Nite Owl
The Comedian
Rorschach
Silk Spectre IIAs stated fight takes place in a vacant Times Square at midnight. Both teams have limited knowledge of each others powers. 30 seconds prep time.
I assume Night Owl has his FULL arsenal of gadgets and the Comedian has his pistol and shotgun and or flamethrower? Otherwise it's not entirely fair as they have Edward Hyde and a fricken Vampire.
Ozymandias' superhuman reaction time and beyond-perfect muscle coordination and calisthenic balance can only aid him so much against a two monsters like Harker and Hyde.
Though Ozymandias did display metahuman strength on par with the two. If Ozymandias is truly their equal in strength than he must be their superior in martial prowess.