Rulk and Hercules vs Juggernaut

No. It's never been done.

And Villelater, Rulk can't use those powers anymore, and just straight up chooses not to.

And no, his forcefield can not be broken. It's never been broken in a comic, so for you to assume it can is foolish and nothing but wishful thinking.

That's like saying this guy has never been able to fly or been shown to fly, but then saying, "He can fly if he wants to."

Originally posted by golem370
Has anybody broke with physcial force? Classic Juggernaut

Juggy wins.

How many times exactly has juggs used that forcefield?

Enough times that it's usually associated with "Classic" Juggernaut.

Juggernaut rarely use his force field, only time were, when he was on a mission or getting attack by non brick characters.

Hercules and Rulk might have a chance, if Force Field isn't a factor and I'm assuming people believe Cain can replicate Colossus speed feat? Cain may gain those speed feat, but he has to build up momentum, which I believe team 1 can dodge.

As I said, Classic Juggernaut has used it and it's been explained enough that it's a part of the "Classic" character.

So it would be a factor in this fight. He's used when he fought Hulk, used it when he fought Thor two out of the three times they fought, etc...

You cant throw Colossus speed ft to Juggernaut since it was explicitly stated that Cytorrak fed Colossus more power than Cain.

soo he gets bounced around like a pinball until his shield brakes? also if his helmet is off Rulk can punch him in the head...hercules will get juggs helmet off then blind him

This fight is an endless stalemate. I don't think anyone here is knocking someone out...sorry. Juggernaut main factor is his durability but he will be knocked around the entire time in this fight. You can't compare who Jugs fought back then to current characters due to the characters compared today growing in power.

Juggernaut slapping around Classic Colossus isn't the same as slapping around Current Colossus who's received a major amp since then. Can't use Hulk either since Rulk fought WWH, not Savage Hulk. Hulk received a major amp as well compared to his previous incarnation. Hell, the Hulk that Rulk fought was> the World at War Hulk Juggernaut fought.

With that said, this is a stalemate.

Originally posted by Villelater
soo he gets bounced around like a pinball until his shield brakes? also if his helmet is off Rulk can punch him in the head...hercules will get juggs helmet off then blind him

Wow...you...you don't even read comics do you?

It's a forcefield that's barely over the surface of his skin, and no, he doesn't get bounced around like a pinball. THey hit the forcefield, their hits do nothing, then they get beat up.

And his helmet isn't to protect his head from physical damage, it's to protect from psychic assaults. He can take a punch just fine, but he has no mental defenses, which is how he's been defeated by Xavier most of the time.

Lol, you're funny.

Good Juggernaut speed showing

Hulk #403

Juggernuats head is more vulnerable than you think...also even the shield juggernuat can be picked up and thrown...you guys only support classic juggs because he was hardly used...he got lucky by not being able to finish his fight with hulk...who would of been enraged to a point where juggs would of lost...again my opinion...again your lucky...again 2 vs 1...Rulk and Hercules eventually wins...doesn't matter what i say though or even juggernuats stats on profiles...you support juggs here and i don't...im done with this arguement...so yeah i believe i won...tis true you know...i have my beliefs

Its just strange that you have no limits to Hulk's strength, but you give limits to Juggy's durability, that's all.

Originally posted by Villelater
Juggernuats head is more vulnerable than you think...also even the shield juggernuat can be picked up and thrown...you guys only support classic juggs because he was hardly used...he got lucky by not being able to finish his fight with hulk...who would of been enraged to a point where juggs would of lost...again my opinion...again your lucky...again 2 vs 1...Rulk and Hercules eventually wins...doesn't matter what i say though or even juggernuats stats on profiles...you support juggs here and i don't...im done with this arguement...so yeah i believe i won...tis true you know...i have my beliefs

You use what times a character was used as a base for their abilities. You can't say, "Well this guy was pretty much unbeatable when they showed him, but there's a chance he could be beaten. They just didn't write that." It's flawed and wishful thinking.

Classic Juggernaut was a monster who in a fight against Hercules and Current Rulk(who sucks big time right now) would take a win. It might not be a fast win, but he'd wear them down and win. And it's a bit of ABC logic, but all 3 times Juggernaut fought Thor, he had Thor on the ropes. Yet Thor has fought pretty evenly with Hercules whenever they've brawled.

As for his "stats", handbooks and website entries only go so far. How about actually reading the comics he appeared in and seeing how big of a threat he was to anyone without psychic powers and the ability to get his helmet off.

And you can concede the argument if you want. But you've just been coming up with assumptions and what you "think" would happen. No actual facts or showings to support Rulk and Herc. You didn't win this battle, sorry bud.

not strange...thanks to classic juggernuats lack of appearances i have to use character profiles to level him out...he is 7 in durability and hulk is 7 in strengh...so we count scores elsewhere...Hulk beats juggs in character profile points...not much to go on but...hey i didn't make there profile stats...and don't give me lip buddy i read all i could of classic juggernuat

Villy's new here, so I think we can cut him some slack..

Generally, Vil, we don't go by handbooks and stats here, just so you know. Opens up huge cans of worms (and they're disgusting).

hey normally i don't use them either but in this case i don't got much to go on...i can't find any other comic images that prove classic juggernuats shield is brakable except thors...what you want me to do? i can admit defeat when im wrong...but im not seeing it at the moment

Maybe the reason you couldn't find any more examples...is because they don't exist?

wha...don't exist? errm you must be more confused than me...theres only one example...and if that isn't what i saw...you can punch past his forcefield even when its on because it only detects certain attacks?...hmm don't exist what a thing to say...the answer is they never got enough time to exist...