Originally posted by Villelater
wha...don't exist? errm you must be more confused than me...theres only one example...and if that isn't what i saw...you can punch past his forcefield even when its on because it only detects certain attacks?...hmm don't exist what a thing to say...the answer is they never got enough time to exist...
With this post, yes, I am more confused than you are.
What examples of class Juggs' forcefield being breached do you have?
There's the Thor example, which isn't applicable , as KingD said.
Now, you're saying that given enough time, Rulk (not even Hulk) can do it??
The madder Rulk gets, the hotter he gets, not the stronger. Failing to do something would only make him hotter until he defeats himself.
The Godblast was the first time he and Thor fought. All it did was push him back momentarily and make his tummy flip like a rollercoaster. Then the street broke under him as he started pushing against it.
The second time they fought on the asteroid he'd tricked Cain into flying to, he canceled out his forcefield with a spell and help from Mjolnir.
His forcefield has never been "broken" by anyone, especially with physical force.
Originally posted by Villelater
wha...don't exist? errm you must be more confused than me...theres only one example...and if that isn't what i saw...you can punch past his forcefield even when its on because it only detects certain attacks?...hmm don't exist what a thing to say...the answer is they never got enough time to exist...
That's the only thing to say. If they don't exist, and his forcefield showed no weaknesses when it was in use. You can't speculate the contrary with no evidence or proof to back you up.
The Godblast fight was in New York. Firestar and some other people jumped in and sealed Cain in a chunk of concrete, then blasted him into space iirc.
Next time Thor fought Cain, they were on an asteroid colony of some sort. That's when Thor disabled his shield and they duked it out. Thor almost won, but the forcefield came back in time. Then I believe he looped Cain's hand in Mjolnir and flew him off somewhere.
And he isn't given a limit because during his classic showings he was only ever defeated through creativity or telepathy. Never physical force.
If it was Classic Jugg against Doomsday, I'd say stalemate. Doomsday can't hurt Jugg, and Jugg can't put Doomsday down without him coming back.
there...you said the same thing pretty much...the only reason juggernuat has no limit with his shield because writers weren't giv'in the chance...thats why and thanks to that reason no matter what brute i throw at classic juggs thats how it ends...i will it again...juggernuat defenders are lucky...but tis not matter...mister invincible isn't any fun...
If he'd kept the shield, there's more chance it would have held up against even more people and made Juggernaut even more hax. There was a reason back then you had to be crafty or have Xavier on your side to beat him.
And I know you want someone to be able to break his shield, but it's not going to happen, and as I said, there's more chance it would have only become more impressive over time if he'd kept it.
And there's no luck involved. It's just bad to match him up against purely physical people.
I don't remember if Strange actually met and or saw Cyttorak, but he does use the "Crimson Bands of Cyttorak" binding spell. So he knows of him at the very least.
And before he got his powers back, he lost most of them for generally not being as bad as Cytorak wanted. He still had his powers, but he was a lot weaker. Then when he fought Hulk, Cyttorak told him he basically had to give in to his rage and whatnot to get his powers back. So he did.