Senate Republicans shoot down Disability Rights Treaty for no good reason

Originally posted by Oliver North
EDIT: Like, if I wanted to mock your position, I'd say something like "now them blind folk wanna be lifeguards! Damn special treatment, they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps... etc", which I don't actually think is very far from what you are saying...

Well, I was with you until you said "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". So, yeah, you took it much too far. It's more like, "That's stupid and absurd to say that a blind person should get to be a lifeguard." I'd stop there.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
pfft wheelchairs. maybe they should just get up and walk their lazy asses up the stairs like everyone else. more entitlements and special privileges for people who dont deserve them.

They also intentionally try to guilt trip you. The way they look at us normals when we walk up stairs, as if we're doing it to be assholes, is only partly true.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Not too sure about the second part. I'd say if the owner owned a very successful franchise of several dozen malls (such as General Growth Properties), maybe then I would think about governments possibly requiring accommodations for the disabled. I would have to hear the arguments against forcing big-business to accommodate the disabled before I solidified my position on that, however.

just as a point of trivia really, but have you ever worked with or had any prolonged experience with either physically or mentally handicapped people?

EDIT: I mean besides just living in Oklahoma.... zing!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I was with you until you said "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". So, yeah, you took it much too far. It's more like, "That's stupid and absurd to say that a blind person should get to be a lifeguard." I'd stop there.

except, the point is, that is where most people start when dealing with discrimination against the disabled.

like, your response to the issue was to restate that the people are disabled in the first place.

yes, a blind person will never be a lifeguard; no, they should not be subject to discrimination when attempting to find employment they are qualified for. lol, c'mon man...

Originally posted by Oliver North
just as a point of trivia really, but have you ever worked with or had any prolonged experience with either physically or mentally handicapped people?

Answered in PM.

Originally posted by Oliver North
EDIT: I mean besides just living in Oklahoma.... zing!

you sunnuva!

Originally posted by Oliver North
yes, a blind person will never be a lifeguard; no, they should not be subject to discrimination when attempting to find employment they are qualified for. lol, c'mon man...

That is not the argument made in the treaty. "Do not discriminate against the disabled community for positions that they are qualified to do." is not equal to "Full and effective participation and inclusion in society." and "Non-discrimination".

you're right, clearly they want blind lifeguards

Originally posted by Oliver North
you're right, clearly they want blind lifeguards

You're right, ignorant, sweeping, borderline insensitive language should have been agreed to by the US Senate. Those evil bastards.

Originally posted by focus4chumps

Clearly, Chest is an angry, ignorant, knee-jerking idiot.

Reading through the articles, it seems great and then it has something stupid. IMO, this 'treaty' is another example of something that tries too hard to make too many people happy.

Why can't we find a happy medium like Uganda? World gets in uproar about killing gays? Coolios, we'll just council them and imprison anyone who promotes homosexual agendas.

Compromise makes the world go round.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Clearly, Chest is an angry, ignorant, knee-jerking idiot.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Clearly, Chest is an angry, ignorant, knee-jerking idiot.

Yes, he is.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There's a guy I know like that--he has donuts in his sig.

U mad because I didn't fall inline with everyone else in being angry at the GOP for smacking down this treaty? Sorry, I just can't be like you and that Chest guy: I see the treaty as mostly shite meant for improper "feel-good" pandering.

The Republicans shot down the treaty because it was a Democratic Treaty, and they're Republicans.

If there is going to be a bill passed, it must be the Republicans who come up with it. The Democrats don't really care, as long as the world is a better place. Call that pandering, eventually you have to come to terms with the fact that we get more and more rights and continually have less and less to complain about, but complain more and more.

We need to raise the bar.

"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron."

"James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is...James Cameron."

- South Park, Raising the Bar

Originally posted by Dolos
The Republicans shot down the treaty because it was a Democratic Treaty, and they're Republicans.

If there is going to be a bill passed, it must be the Republicans who come up with it. The Democrats don't really care, as long as the world is a better place. Call that pandering, eventually you have to come to terms with the fact that we get more and more rights and continually have less and less to complain about, but complain more and more.

We need to raise the bar.

"James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron."

"James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron is...James Cameron."

- South Park, Raising the Bar

Democrats: paragons of truth, righteousness, and freedom of the American people.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Democrats: paragons of truth, righteousness, and freedom of the American people.

I hear they're not afraid of getting head while in office either.

Come on now, we beat you guys twice in a row, quit acting like you don't know.

Originally posted by Dolos
I hear they're not afraid of getting head while in office either.

Come on now, we beat you guys twice in a row, quit acting like you don't know.

I don't get that second part but I admired Clinton, in school, for getting it on.

Originally posted by Dolos
Come on now, we beat you guys twice in a row, quit acting like you don't know.

Gore 'messed' up. It's up to Hillary in 2016/2020 to tie and defeat.

Originally posted by dadudemon
U mad because I didn't fall inline with everyone else in being angry at the GOP for smacking down this treaty? Sorry, I just can't be like you and that Chest guy: I see the treaty as mostly shite meant for improper "feel-good" pandering.

Originally posted by Mindship
If I understand this correctly, Repubs are still ahead by 1, ie, beat Dems 3x/row: Reagan, Reagan, Bush I.

Gore 'messed' up. It's up to Hillary in 2016/2020 to tie and defeat.

You seem to forget Roosevelt, who single handedly beat them with 4x. Truman brought that up to 5x to make this a win for the Democrats.

4x was actually already performed by the Republicans before (Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur).

Though, to be fair, that's really all child's play compared to the 7x combo of the Democratic-Republicans (Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams).

Which I believe shows us the power of working together (that's a joke based on the name of their party 😐 )

Originally posted by Bardock42
You seem to forget Roosevelt, who single handedly beat them with 4x. Truman brought that up to 5x to make this a win for the Democrats.

4x was actually already performed by the Republicans before (Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur).

Though, to be fair, that's really all child's play compared to the 7x combo of the Democratic-Republicans (Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams).

Which I believe shows us the power of working together (that's a joke based on the name of their party 😐 )

oh dear my mistake. didnt read what chest said. phew that kid was angry. my bad indeed, that was just intended to show what a deplorable douche-clown santorum is. i sure hope the chest comment didn't rustle any jimmies here.